On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 11:24, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: > At 06.27 05/04/2003, you wrote: > >On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 15:22, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: > > > [I sent this message some days ago but I did not see it in the ML. I send > > > it again.] > > > > > > I downloaded two days ago the ISOs and yesterday I installed them in the > > > following PC: > > > > > > Mobo PCChips 748lmrt, 128+64+32 ram, chipset sis620 (with onboard audio > > > cmi8738, lan davicom 901a, video sis 620 agp shared memory, modem pctel > > > AMR), celeron 400, video card 3dfx Banshee 16 mb PCI. hda IBM 60GXP 40 GB > > > (hda1 ReiserFS 5 GB, swap 400 MB and /home about 32 GB, ReiserFS). > > > > > I had a "problem" during X configuration: I saw "Voodoo Banshee > > generic" as > > > video card set automatically, so I simply changed the resolution: from > > 1024 > > > to 800. I then tested the configuration and ... EVERYTHING freezed. > > > Control-Alt-Fx did not work and I had to reinstall everything from the > > > beginning (I didn't know the x configuration was the LAST step! :-\. Hard > > > reboot and installation from the beginning. After about one hour and half, > > > at the same point of the previous freeze, I simply ignored the test button > > > and I accepted the configuration. > > > > > > When I rebooted (with much expectations, honestly) I found linux booting > > > without graphics (I was really suprised: I have seen the graphic boot for > > > at least 3 MDKs!) and **really slow**, especially in the "Finding modules > > > dependencies" (or similar, I'm writing from another pc because the pctel > > > modem is not recognized, as expected: not only it's a softmodem, it's also > > > AMR). > > > >looks like it's running depmod -a every boot now -- I've seen this too. > > Is this necessary? It takes about 30 seconds or more!
there's something else wrong, it only takes about 3 seconds on my system after the first run. > > > > Unfortunately, when the login manager should have appeared, everything > > > locked up again. I could hear the HD reading something, but I wasn't able > > > to kill xfree because I could not access the terminals. Hard reboot AGAIN. > > > I booted into runlevel 3 and executed XFdrake, this time trying to use a > > > different driver for the video card. I didn't find one, but I discovered I > > > could select xfree 4.3 wirthout 3d support or even xfree 3.3.6. I don't > > > know why but the problem was 3D support: the Banshee card has 3d support > > > with xfree, but who knows... > > > >Glad I saw this before trying to upgrade either of my servers -- they > >both have Voodoo3 AGP cards in them. Have you tried using 3.3.6? It was > >always pretty solid with the Voodoo. > > Thank you for the tip! I tried 3.3.6 but, since 4.3 worked, I chose the > latest. Anyway, has 3.3.6 3d support? if not, where's the advantage? you can call >1 second response time after clicking a menu working, personally I'd call it "format the disk and try again." 3.3.6 does have 3d support, I used to play Quake 3 on it all the time. Sniff. I'd play Quake 3 on my laptop now if it didn't insist on mmap'ing /dev/dsp. > > > > Another strange thing: not only kde and gnome are slower than mdk 9.0, but > > > even the whole system: for example, window maker or a simple "./configure" > > > executed in a separate shell outside xfree (runlevel 5). Could it depends > > > on the kernel? I don't know, but I find this situation very strange and > > > unacceptable (I mean: I will come back to mdk 9.0 and I'll try to upgrade > > > manually as much as I can). > > > > > > >X stuff being slow could be an xserver problem, but this sounds like > >something different... I don't know what though. > >/etc/sysconfig/harddisks? Was the system responsive before? > > The system has always been responsive ... as responsive as a cel400 with a > very poor chipset can be. This time, with 9.1, it's MUCH worse. > The problem should not be related to the harddisk: the ibm hd is now pio (I > will change it to dma soon), but the disk works only for few seconds, while > apps take many many seconds to start, after the hd has stopped working. I > forgot to tell that I set the hd in quietest mode, but this affects only > seek time (so it could probably slows down the depmod process), while, as > already said, apps take much to start even after the hd has finished. > well something is way wrong, but I don't know what it is. > > > A question: why did you choose a -pre kernel? was it really necessary? > > > > > > >I'll hazard a guess that it's ACPI -- those of us with new laptops and > >desktops don't get working systems without good ACPI support, and 2.4.21 > >is definitely a lot better. > > What about preemptive patch? is it already inside? > Not yet, but I would expect that the 9.2 distro will have it (if it isn't a 2.6 kernel) > Thank you > > Olaf > > <olaf@ kjws.com> for every kind of mail, except spam! :-) > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Are you compliant yet? ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3514.txt
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