I'm not a metallurgist but I wonder about the part concerning mild steel vs chromemoly. Is it actually as good? I do like the cage though as it reminds me of my last rail. I don't know about hitting walls but it would certainly keep the tires out. Well actually I did hit the wall in the rain at NHIS early this season backwards and the hit was harder than I was used to. Got to admire those NASCAR guys.
Ed C.

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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:26:45 -0500

John Whitling wrote:
>I agree with what you're saying but I have to wonder. I have an email to
>the author to confirm that. If so I wonder how they think they can be
>competitive with such a compromised package when you can run any shock
>you want.

It’s a short-track oval car. There aren't too many quick transitions or bumps on a short paved oval. Even the dirt guys (where there are a LOT of bumps) run fairly simple suspensions like torsion bars. Not too long ago Stevie Smith's coilovers were the talk of the World of Outlaws.

Interesting read about the Predator, although he might want to consult Jim McGee about the myth vs. reality of left-hand weight offset on an oval car.

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Les Francisco wrote:

>I don't think this is a rule for the class, it just happens to be the
>way that company put the shock on their cars. Earlier they mention that
>you can use any shock and give sample cost of  up to $600/shock
>
>Les
>
>
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>Date:Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:08:36 -0500
>
>
>Thanks for the link, Eric. It's interesting and worth considering how
>they got around expensive shocks with their shock rule. I advise
>everyone to read the shock rule for these inexpensive cars so I'm
>pasting it below ..
>
>The *COILON*Ó units consist of a Dodge Dakota Gabriel rear shock (gas
>bag type), a 3/8” rod end (which screws onto the pin end of the shock),
>the shock washers provided with the shock, spacer washers, one
>industrial die spring and two industrial die spring cups. The result is
>a compact inexpensive unit (a spring ON top of a coil) that rivals the
>big guys in performance and beats the heck out of all of them in terms
>of price. Industrial die springs are available from any number of
>industrial supply and mail order shops in rates from 70 to 700 pounds
>and can be mixed and matched to fine tune your racer…between $5 and $20
>each. The only real drawback here is the lack of adjustable compression
>and rebound rates available in all-out racing shocks.

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