Quote " Hutchens Out, HANS Only in 2005 Based on NASCAR testing the HANS device provides better protection than the Hutchens harness. As a result the Hutchens device is no longer acceptable in NASCAR and all drivers must wear the HANS. We've come a long ways since head and neck restraints were first mandated by NASCAR in 2001. At first it was a struggle just to get everybody to wear one at all, now NASCAR has eliminated half of the options. " http://nascar.about.com/b/a/137326.htm?terms=head+and+neck+restraints Read also the HANS Device home page, http://hansdevice.com/site/index.html Best Required by: NASCAR, F1, A1GP, ALMS, World Rally, GP2, Champ Car, IROC, and Grand AM Sounds like a monopoly to me.... What if Simpson was the only helmet that worked and could be used by these sanctions??? CR
"Flash." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: its not a monopoly if the pricing is fair (I would contend it is given their costs) and the fact that you're not REQUIRED to own one. as of now its a "luxury" item... helmets are not much less than 1k unless you go strict economy... The hans device is very well made and I think it justifies its cost. On 11/28/06, Chris Reinhardt wrote: > The only argument I have against the price of a HANS device is the fact that > no other device works, which makes the HANS device a monolpy. > You can kid yourself and buy a Hutchsons , or the R3, but the only one that > works is the HANS, so they can charge whatever they want... > > CR > > Jay Novak wrote: > Dr. Hubabrd & Jim Downing are personal friends of mine. No one thinks about > the over 10 years of research, testing, building prototypes, more testing, > building molds, more molds for each size & angle, etc that went into the > development of the HANS & ALL ON THEIR OWN NICKLE. I guarantee you that > they are not getting rich on this deal. The number of sales are still in > the low thousands & the costs of carbon & the mold costs for these parts is > enormous. Dr. Hubbard still works part time at Michigan State & Jim Downing > is still running his composite business. You guys who are complaining about > costs will spend all you can get to go .5 sec quicker but complain when you > have to spend money to protect you life. > > Bob Hubbard & Jim Downing have contributed more, in the last 15 years, to > racer safety than anyone else. > > Thanks ... Jay Novak > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frank > Varano > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:16 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [F500] Why should I use a HANS Device? > > > I wonder how much HANS makes on each device. Personally I think that > Mandatory Saftey equipment should not be a get rich quick thing. Why does a > HANS 30 cost more than a 20? More open wheel racers will buy the HANS > device > thats why. Yes the HANS device is a great product, and I will still be > getting one, but $1135 for something called an 'economy' model is silly. I > believe a HANS should cost no more than $700 for any model. The reason they > can charge so much is that inorder to be safe we need to buy one because no > other device performs nearly as well. I guess inorder to get the best you > must pay a premium. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Chris Reinhardt > > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 > 10:55:34 PM > Subject: Re: [F500] Why should I use a HANS Device? > > > Sterling is > responsible in more ways than one for the Hans device.... > > CR > > 500 Racer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Better yet, why should I SPEND ALL THAT MONEY > for a HANS > (head and neck restraint) device? > > A few years ago, Sterling Marlin > smacked a wall while wearing a HUTCHINS > device. After > missing a few races > (and taking himself out of CUP contention) he > returned wearing a HANS > device. > I'll leave it to you to figure out what that means. > A few years ago, I > involved Dr. Hubbard in discussions on this forum. > I haven't tried yet but > I'm quite certain that those threads could be reviewed by searching the > F-500 > website archives. > How about this? "If you've got a ten dollar head, wear a ten > dollar > helmet". Look, I know as > well as anyone how expensive it is to race > but think about this. If you > wreck tomorrow and can't > walk, who is going to > support your family? If a HANS device could > prevent that situation, > wouldn't > you do anything you could to prevent it? > > J D Layson > > BTW, Since 2000, the > only thing @ Team NovaKar that hasn't changed is > the team principals > and > Brian Novak's HANS device. > > http://hansdevice.com/site/index.html > Subject: > [F500] RE: No HANS-You must be kidding. > From: > "Steven Dodd" > Date: > Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:47:03 -0600 > > To: > [email protected] > > > Gentlemen (& Ladies) if > you are not wearing a HANS you must be kidding > yourself about the rest of > your life. If you can't afford a HANS then > you can't afford to race. Every > major body requires HANS or a similar > device. Yes, we know by every test that > it prevents BSF. Common sense > should tell you a rigid support that rest atop > your shoulders will help > in a compression type injury, although your roll > hoop and belts should > have eliminated most concerns in that area. And should > you ever get T > Boned the Hans will greatly aid in not allowing your neck to > "twist" or > "torque" too far. The device in a frontal, or side impact crash > disperses the load (G) on to the rest of your body. Remember, BSF can > happen > in the low 40 mph. In a kart, the mechanics are different. You > are not > strapped by 5-6 pts in a Kart or street car. > I survived a terrible crash @ > TMS. The HANS did its job. I believed in > the device so much my wife and I now > sell the devices to other racers. > If you need a HANS, call me or your local > dealer. Visit the SFI & > various other rating sites. HANS is by far the best. > We all have lives outside of racing. If you wear the right gear, you may > enjoy both sides a little more. > Steven Dodd (Central Safety) > Dallas Texas > --------------------------------- > Want to start your own business? Learn how > on Yahoo! 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