I'd like to bang out another 1 or 2 nice new features before I drop 2.3,
but even if I don't, I'll make sure to push it out by early next week.

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Christian MacNevin <cmacne...@nvidia.com>
wrote:

> Thanks so much for the epic response [image: 😊] So far Fabric 2 seems
> more sensible in a lot of ways, and since my old codebase was so integrated
> into a former employer’s infrastructure, I’m going to keep trying to
> operate in the new world.
>
> I’ll work through the workaround for now. When is 2.3 likely to drop?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* bitprop...@gmail.com <bitprop...@gmail.com> * On Behalf Of *Jeff
> Forcier
> *Sent:* Monday, July 23, 2018 9:56 PM
> *To:* Christian MacNevin <cmacne...@nvidia.com>
> *Cc:* fab-user@nongnu.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Fab-user] New to fabric 2. Using groups with Connection?
>
>
>
> Hi Christian,
>
>
>
> First, do note you can always fall back to Fabric 1 for a while if Fabric
> 2 isn't yet up to snuff for your particular use case. We're still feeling
> out some of the APIs in terms of ease of use. Unfortunately, Group is one
> of those - it's real basic right now.
>
>
>
> I just looked and there's no great way to set global connect_kwargs in
> such an object, without creating your own Connections to hand to its
> alternate constructor 'from_connections()':
>
>
>
> ```
>
> hosts = ['switch1', 'switch2', 'switch3']
>
> connections = [Connection(host=host, user='user',
> connect_kwargs={'password': 'pw'}) for host in hosts]
>
> switch_group = group.SerialGroup.from_connections(connections)
>
>
>
> @task
>
> def inventory(c):
>
>   switch_group.run('show chassis hardware')
>
> ```
>
>
>
> That's not the end of the world, but it's not ideal, so I just made
> https://github.com/fabric/fabric/issues/1831 and then (since I was
> thinking about it and it was very easy for once) implemented it. It'll be
> out in the next feature release!
>
>
>
> The rest of your issues are more high level, so here's a bit of a wall of
> text (sorry!):
>
>
>
> Version 2 is much less implicit/magic than v1 – all objects need to fit
> together in obvious, Pythonic ways (such as being handed to one another in
> constructors or method calls). For example, context managers don't change
> any object besides the one that they yield, so trying to do things to
> switch_group inside a context manager about some other Connection object
> won't do anything. (This is as opposed to e.g. 'with settings()' in v1,
> which I assume you were thinking of; it, like the rest of that API, is all
> about magically twiddling data behind the scenes.)
>
>
>
> Connections can't be created without some 'host' argument, which I think
> is triggering your TypeError. This ought to be in its __init__ docs, FWIW
> :) See the code example above; you either need to make your Group from
> explicitly-created Connections, where a host arg is being given, or (after
> the next release) you can tell the Group's constructor about connect_kwargs.
>
>
>
> Depending on your use case, there's a CLI flag that may replace your
> getpass code: http://docs.fabfile.org/en/2.2/cli.html#cmdoption-prompt-
> for-login-password
>
>
>
> Which brings us to that context argument in the task signature: that's how
> `fab` explicitly transmits CLI and config info to your tasks, including the
> connection password. However, this introduces some ordering problems with
> your code - you need to pass that context's config into your Group or
> Connections.
>
>
>
> Should be easily solved by moving away from module-level code exec (which
> is honestly an antipattern anyways). Based on my above snippet:
>
>
>
> ```
>
> hosts = ['switch1', 'switch2', 'switch3']
>
>
>
> def make_group(c):
>
>   connections = [
>
>     Connection(host=host, user='user', config=c.config)
>
>     for host in hosts
>
>   ]
>
>   return group.SerialGroup.from_connections(connections)
>
>
>
> @task
>
> def inventory(c):
>
>   switch_group = make_group(c)
>
>   switch_group.run('show chassis hardware')
>
> ```
>
>
>
> Or, after 2.3 comes out, you could arguably nix make_group() again, though
> hopefully you can see the various opportunities for refactoring, given that
> everything is explicit:
>
>
>
> ```
>
> hosts = ['switch1', 'switch2', 'switch3']
>
>
>
> @task
>
> def inventory(c):
>
>   switch_group = SerialGroup(*hosts, config=c.config)
>
>   switch_group.run('show chassis hardware')
>
> ```
>
>
>
> Finally: if you're thinking "ok, but it'd be so nice to just plop my
> switch hostnames and the fact that I want password prompting all the time,
> into a config file and call it done": that sort of thing is definitely in
> the pipeline! As I said up top, we're still hashing out a lot of the
> 'convenience' angles here, even though the core APIs are mostly in good
> shape.
>
>
>
> Hope that all helps,
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 3:45 PM, Christian MacNevin <cmacne...@nvidia.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I’m new to Fabric 2, though in the past I’d used 1 a lot. I can find docs
> on using SerialGroup, but only with run directly. I’m using interactive
> mode authentication, so it seems like I need to gather a password (that’s
> fine, I’m doing it via getpass) and also pass kwargs into Connection.  I
> have a large list of hosts, and also was planning to use @task decorators.
>
>
>
> What I have right now is a muddle between the two which obviously won’t
> work, but I can’t figure out how to glue the three
> concepts of having a defined group, a task which can be specified from the
> cli, and an interactive user/pass sequence together.
>
>
>
>
>
> import getpass
>
> from fabric import Connection, group
>
> from invoke import task
>
>
>
> switch_group = group.SerialGroup(switch1', 'switch2', 'switch3')
>
>
>
> pw = getpass.getpass("Password for netuser?")
>
>
>
> @task
>
> def inventory(c):    ß This is purely here because tasks will error out
> if a kwarg ‘Context(..?)’ isn’t specified
>
>     with Connection(user = 'user', connect_kwargs = {'password' : pw }) as
> c:
>
>         switch_group.run('show chassis hardware')
>
>
>
> It’s failing out with ’TypeError: __init__() takes at least 2 arguments (3
> given)’
>
>
>
>
>
>
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