--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
>  
> > > BTW, sorry if I am getting names mixed up, but are you the one who
> > > holds that the only things that are true are from peer reviewed
> > > journals? 
> > 
> > 
> >  All I have ever said is that peer-review is  the way that humans in 
> > the 21st century have found to agree on things. If you have a better 
> > way to for humans to agree in things then please let the world know 
> > of it. 
> 
> (I guess the latter sentence is sarchasm.)
+++++ Peer,schmeer- the majority is not always right-witness
archaeology where nonconforming new evidence sometimes gets thrown
out. and, the discoverer discredited.  >
> 
> I hold that peer reviewed journals (of distinction) are an excellent
> process to establish truth claims and/or to refine models and working
> hypotheses as to how the world works. I think in some matters, less
> formal and rigorous means are also possible means for ways humans can
> agree on things -- each methodology adapted to the needs of its
> domain: courts, journalism, heuristics for problem solving in various
> fields, development of world views from personal experience, even
> things such as schools of art and literature criticism -- in which
> various standards can be agreed upon by many as how to value and
> interpret various works. 
> 
>  
> > <<please point to the the consensus of all scholars in peer
> > reviewed journals to support your presentation of the truth.>>>
>  
> > Which particular point is that you wish such peer-review on (I made 
> > many points),
> 
> 
> "Tantra is Vedic."
> 
> [Buddhism is vedic.]
> "you can add Buddhism to that
> list also." [of things that are Vedic]
> 
> Its my understanding, though I am not making a truth claim -- simply
> seeking clarification -- that Shankra (whom I assume most would hold,
> possibly amongst other things, as an upholder of the Vedas) viewed
> Buddhism as anti-vedic and debated many on the topic, converting many
> to his view -- if legends are true. Further its my understanding that
> Buddhism denounces some if not many vedic tenets.  Again, if my
> understanding is incorrect, I am eager to be corrected. 
> 
> If my understanding is generally correct, then it seems inconsistent
> to make a strong truth claim -- which you appear to be doing -- that
> Buddhism is Vedic. If you are not making a truth claim, and this is
> only your personal opinion -- based on your studies -- well then all
> good and fine. 
> 
> However, if it is a truth claim, and given that you hold, as do I, the
> value of peer reviewed journals, I am simply asking for support for
> your claims in such journals. 
> 
> Two levels of support for your claims are possible: i) some articles
> that support such claims but which are countered by a number of
> others, or ii) a general consensus among most scholars that your claim
> is the primary currently accepted view. If you are making a strong
> truth claim, which at times you appear do -- or perhaps you just have
> an emphatic style of writing -- then it is the latter concensus that I
> would hope you could provide.
> 
> 
> >and will you present every point you make in the same 
> > manner.?
> 
> I am not making truth claims, simply making inquiries and stating some
> general opinions -- which I recognize may be incoirrect.  I am not
> making points that need bolstering with peer reviewed journal articles
> to establish them as credible.





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