--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Mar 14, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote:
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> > Any insights on sense perception from those who've
> > read somethign or have had an experience?
> 
> There are a series of practices in
> Dzogchen/Mahasandi and in the 
> anuttara tantras which work on dismantling the idea
> that the senses 
> project outward or are dualistic. These are
> essentially completion 
> stage practices. The idea is to subtly dismantle our
> dualistic 
> conditioning and to dissolve you into the non-dual
> state. So this is 
> something that is well-know in yogic circles. Each
> of the senses keeps 
> a 'duality-loop' going and thus maintains a sense of
> self and other.

Interesting. The subject-object dynamics of the senses
don't seem to remain the same as you move from gross
to subtle. Do the senses "project" the objects of
their experience? You can transcend with your eyes
open thinking about this stuff!
-Peter 





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