--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 26, 2005, at 8:07 AM, Rory Goff wrote: > > > Yes, quite true; we can say they are anchored there. However they > > appear to have correlates or analogues throughout the various > > dimensions. We can say from Purusha's point of view the Sex chakra > > or pranamayakosha manifests in the cosmic body as Sagittarius (the > > divine Planter) and Pisces (the divine Forester), for example, and > > on the Tree of Nine (lokas) as the realm of the Dark Elves or > > vegetable devas, and so on. There is a rich and almost infinitely > > complex network of magical correspondences. It gets a bit bogged > > down if I throw in all the correlates from all the different > > dimensions in every posting; for those who are curious, symbolism > > for much of these is available in postings with OMG or Akasha last > > year and (in much more detail) on my website. > > Since Brahman is not creative, it must use maya to appear as manifest. > > The prana-maya-kosha veils the Pure Self and makes it *appear* as if it > is a speaker--when in fact it is speechless. It does not give or take. > It is not a mover because it has no movement. These are merely the > aspects of illusion that the pranic body deludes into believing (as > correspondences, etc.). It's just maya in her energetic form, but it > *IS* still her dance, her web and her weaving it. This is all due to > kriya-shakti. > > One can go thru all the sheaths and also discover how they work in > cahoots with maya to fool us. > > At least so says "Vedanta". There are other POV's. YMMV.
Many thanks for bringing this up! Yes, in my view each realm contains analogues of all the realms within it, in holographic mode, so that each realm appears to contain it all and to be self- sufficient; viewable as not-so only after one has "seen through" it. What I am describing above as cosmic-body chakras and so forth was NOT perceivable (for me at least) in those states you describe (specifically what you have described as the progression from C.C. to G.C. to U.C.); it is just an overview or map from the point of view of Purusha -- perhaps really viewable only after actually enlivening B.C. (and ideally K.C. and S.C.), and one knows that Brahman does indeed manifest; there is no other; Purusha and Prakriti are the same. What you are describing above would in my model be translatable as the realization of the illusory or projected nature of maya, which begins to dawn as one moves from C.C. through G.C. into U.C., and one realizes it is not all "out there" at all but actually within; the world "out there" is exactly as we are, a perfect reflection or manifestation of the play(s) or themes we are working on inside. Here's how I see it at the moment anyhow: The description of Brahman as the unmoved, uninvolved witness describes C.C., where Purusha is occupying the cosmic (Purushic) body as its third-eye, Avyakta, the Unmanifest, and Prakriti is occupying it as its base-chakra, the Karmendriyas, the organs of action. In G.C., Purusha has descended as far as its cosmic throat -- the bliss-realm of divine archetypes - - and Prakriti has ascended as far as cosmic sex -- the senses. There is still a projection of all these newly unfolded lokas "out there" as outside oneself. In U.C., Purusha has moved down into the cosmic heart, the Buddhi-realm, and Prakriti has moved up as far as the cosmic navel, the manas-realm, and one now begins to really grasp that all the dimensions of spacetime -- all of G.C.'s or pranayamaya/anandamaya's koshas -- are just a movie of the mind. There is still a small but very important (in its own estimation *lol*) distinction or boundary between Purusha and Prakriti, though, until the two finally meet at the Golden Solar Angel -- the Ahamkara, at the bottom of one's heart, or the Solar Plexus -- and one knows the Guru-Christ fully as oneself. Then *bam* it all disappears, and the Dark Night of the Soul ensues, culminating in the final surrender of the Ahamkara and its no-self extinction in B.C. - Absolute and Relative have met and overlapped. "It is finished." All this is the emptiful THAT, and THAT alone is. (Always has been; always will be, NOW.) But actually, if we so choose, our explorations have just begun, and now we find more and more of the realms of life reflecting the ever- progressing merger and intercourse of Purusha and Prakriti, the Absolute and the Relative. Now (if we like) we may begin to explore how THAT Absolute/Relative becomes the Absolute unfolding the Relative -- the mechanics of creation; what ensues as the wholeness begins to play with the patterns created in the Absolute among its point-selves. Eventually we may find ourselves reconstructing and exploring a new body -- a Purushic/Prakritic body. We need no longer "fear" maya, as we are eternally free, and She is not other than us. Now we can make love with Her, play in Her playground; all the angels and demons we birth together are merely our own beloved children, aspects of ourselves (as your wonderful Chod visualization makes so clear). The whole thing is -- if we choose to put our attention there -- completely emptiful, "nobody here but just us chickens." And the body and the spirit are exactly the same substance. But it's still fun to go inside and play among our chakra-lokas, whether they be on the physical, pranic-astral, manasic, causal, buddhic, mahat-atmic, or avyaktic planes. It is after all our creation, and our I-selves love the attention! :-) LLL, R. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/