--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 3/28/05 12:04 AM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Hagelin may be deriving some sincerity from the wish expressed that > > the yagyas being performed by the pundits in India will make it > > possible for the 500 pundits to somehow get permission to come to the > > USA, but as it stands right now, the U.S. State Dept. has rejected > > 1000 applicants from the pool of pundits in India, and there is very > > little possibility of the pundits ever being admitted. > >
> It sounded to me like MMY was placating Bob Wynne. He doesn't like to say no > to people directly. It's an Indian cultural thing. Say yes so as not to hurt > their feelings (or make yourself uncomfortable) even though you have no > intention of doing the thing. Bob took him at his word and published the > conversation. I've gotten the impression all along that the pundit thing > here was the result of Bob badgering MMY on the idea, and that the latter > was never overly enthused about it. ************* You're overlooking clear evidence that the visas were not granted, and if the TMO built a $4.5 million trailer park and sought the visas and the pundits are not coming only because the visas were denied, then all the talk about Maharishi saying that the pundits should not come now because of the parents' concern about safety is just a cover story. The fact is, everybody, MMY and the whole TM mgmt crew, wanted the pundits to come, but the job was botched. MUM's lawyer was saying in 2003 that he was getting assurances from the highest level of the State Dept that the visas were no problem, but I had published a report from the June 2003 issue of Scientific American noting that low-level employees make visa decisions, and those decisions cannot be overturned even by the Secretary of State http://geocities.com/bbrigante/pundits.html#sciam -- if the TMO had bothered to consult with immigration attorneys, they would have found that the pundits' poverty was indeed a problem (actually MUM has had visa problems before with real college students from India, guys who speak English, unlike the uneducated pundits http://www.mum.edu/TheReview/02-03/1-22-03.html#3 ), and if MUM had tried to get 25 or so visas before building the campus in Vedic City, then this whole ridiculous situation of having a useless trailer park could have been avoided. Obviously some use will be found for it eventually, but for now it's a half-paid-for bunch of metal boxes that have no purpose, and it's likely to make donors real unhappy that their money was thrown away by the typical bone-head play of TM management. The TMO is always going off half-cocked like this -- the big dog-and- pony show to the island of Rota is just one of the many foolish spectacles enabled by a failure to talk with expert lawyers in the relevant field and a grandiose sense that yogic flyers who can't fly will be able to talk their way out of anything: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.html#gradual To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
