Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Controversial gospel to be translated

[rudra_joe]

I find it fascinating to watch the creation and destruction of the first Maharshian Church first hand from the source. I figure we did this shit lots of time. In fact I know it! I had this dream where a bunch of us were standing around like we were Maharishi's peers and he was sitting on a podium with a long face that looked like a boars and i said, hes looking alot like Varaha, with his boars tusks and long face. And there was the chatter of a bunch of us talking about it behind.   On the other hand, if people were going to wipe themselves out due to nuclear holocost and the great seer saw that then any kind of lie would be ok against that kind of utter nuclear apocalypse. ----- Original Message ----- From: peterklutz To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:02 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Controversial gospel to be translated I didn't say it was - past is dust. But if one look at the fascination people today have with history (also obscure), I would deem FFL an excellent critical first hand source when studying the evolution of the TMO. The backdrop, of course, is that the TMO in the future will be seen as so much more main stream than it is today. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't see it as that important. I guess it's just a > judgement call based on one's experience. No big woof! > -Peter > > --- peterklutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think there is potentiality for more thant that. > > FFL does not only > > belong to Fairfield, as far as I know, it's the > > heart of discontent > > and discussion within the American TMO - and as in > > so many other > > things, America is at the center of it all. > > > > If I am misiformed here, please redirect me to the > > 'real' heart and > > mind of the TMO. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Oh, I believe FFL will fade into the great maw of > > time > > > and never be heard of again. :) > > > -Peter > > > --- peterklutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Gospel of Judas..? > > > > > > > > That sounds like FFL in a few centuries (as > > > > historians investigate > > > > the Great Transition): garulous, delirious, > > > > blasphemous, nauseating, > > > > infuriating, hilarious, enlightening - a > > must-read. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ranigdv > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ABOUT 2000 years after the Gospel according to > > > > Judas sowed discord > > > > > among early Christians, a Swiss foundation > > says it > > > > is translating > > > > > for the first time the controversial text > > named > > > > after the apostle > > > > > said to have betrayed Jesus Christ. > > > > > > > > > > The 62-page papyrus manuscript of the text was > > > > uncovered in Egypt > > > > > during the 1950s or 1960s, but its owners did > > not > > > > fully comprehend > > > > > its significance until recently, according to > > the > > > > Maecenas > > > > > Foundation in Basel. > > > > > > > > > > The manuscript written in the ancient dialect > > of > > > > Egypt's Coptic > > > > > Christian community will be translated into > > > > English, French and > > > > > German in about a year, the foundation > > > > specialising in antique > > > > > culture said today. > > > > > > > > > > "We have just received the results of carbon > > > > dating: the text is > > > > > older than we thought and dates back to a > > period > > > > between the > > > > > beginning of the third and fourth centuries," > > > > foundation director > > > > > Mario Jean Roberty said. > > > > > > > > > > The existence of a Gospel of Judas, which was > > > > originally written in > > > > > Greek, was outlined by a bishop, Saint Irenee, > > > > when he denounced the > > > > > text as heretical during the second century. > > > > > > > > > > "It's the only clear source that allows us to > > know > > > > that such a > > > > > Gospel did exist," Mr Roberty explained. > > > > > > > > > > The foundation declined to say what account > > Judas > > > > is said to give in > > > > > his alleged gospel. > > > > > > > > > > According to Christian tradition, Judas > > Iscariot > > > > betrayed Jesus > > > > > Christ for 30 pieces of silver by helping the > > > > Romans to find him > > > > > before he was crucified. > > > > > > > > > > "We do not want to reveal the exceptional side > > of > > > > what we have," Mr > > > > > Roberty said. > > > > > > > > > > The author of the text is unknown. > > > > > > > > > > "No-one can clearly state that Judas wrote it > > > > himself," Mr Roberty > > > > > said, while pointing out that the other > > gospels > > > > were probably not > > > > > written by their supposed authors either. > > > > > > > > > > The four recognised gospels of the New > > Testament > > > > describe the life, > > > > > death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ and > > are > > > > said to record his > > > > > teachings from the eyes of four of his > > disciples, > > > > Matthew, Mark, > > > > > Luke and John. > > > > > > > > > > The Roman Catholic Church limited the > > recognised > > > > gospels to the four > > > > > in 325 AD, under the guidance of the first > > > > Christian Roman emperor, > > > > > Constantine. > > > > > > > > > > Thirty other texts - some of which have been > > > > uncovered - were > > > > > sidelined because "they were difficult to > > > > reconcile with what > > > > > Constantine wanted as a political doctrine", > > > > according to Mr Roberty. > > > > > > > > > > The foundation's director said the Judas > > Iscariot > > > > text called into > > > > > question some of the political principles of > > > > Christian doctrine. > > > > > > > > > > The Maecenas Foundation, which aims to protect > > > > archaeological relics > > > > > found in poor countries, hopes to organise > > > > exhibitions around the > > > > > manuscript and to produce a documentary on the > > > > process of > > > > > unravelling the text. > > > > > > > > > > The full launch is due in Easter 2006. > > > > > > > > > > AFP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Or go to: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > Yahoo! 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