Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Photo proof positive of Pundit project.

Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:20:01 -0800

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Photo proof positive of Pundit project.
So how many priests does this involve?


on 3/31/05 6:00 PM, rudra_joe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 http://www.srdm.org/Archana.htm
 

 
   
Greatest and Largest Yajna ever

16 April 2003 to 27 May 2003 (41 Days)

at Sree Rama Dasa Ashram, Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala, India

Sahasra Koti Lalitha Sahasra Nama Archana to establish peace and prosperity across the world!

  • 1000 Crore Namas and 250 Crore  Homa Mantras offered every day to mother goddess to establish world peace  
  • 10,000 Archakas, offering 25  rounds of Archana with 5000 lamps chanting 25 Crore Namas each day.  
  • 250 Homa kundas, 5000 Hotas in  two shifts, 6 Crore Homa mantras offered in 12 consecutive hours each  day.
  • Vishnu Sahasranama, Ramayana  recital, Bhajans, Aradhana and  Sree Rama Pattabhishekam
  • Sanctified by the luminous  manifestation of the Mother Goddess on May 30 ,2000 during Sata Koti  Archana.
  • To invoke Divine inspiration  and spiritual elevation amongst people and to bestow virtues and well being to  future generations
Special pooja sponsorship rates:
    Archana for a day (25 crore  Namas)  $ 10,001.00
          Annadanam for a day  $  5001.00
          Archana Lamps  Others*
             1000 Crore  Namas  $ 501.00  Yantras (with Gold  case)  $ 501.00
              500 Crore  Namas  $ 301.00  Locket (Gold)  $ 301.00
               250  Crore Namas  $ 201.00  Locket (Silver)  $ 101.00
               100  Crore Namas  $ 101.00  Grithams (Brahmi  etc.)  $  51.00
* Items kept at the mandapam for entire pooja duration of 41 days.
 
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----- Original Message -----
 
From:  akasha_108 <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:26  PM
 
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Photo proof  positive of Pundit project.
 


I was going to ask you about that. I remember you  posting notices
about that. Do you have any details on how it came off? How  many
pundits? days?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
> Not to mention the greatest size yajna in history was performed  in
India recently anyway.
>   ----- Original Message -----  
>   From: akasha_108
>   To:  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, March 31,  2005 4:27 PM
>   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Photo proof  positive of Pundit project.
>
>
>
>    Thanks Ben. Yes, I know $10 was low ball, I just wanted to show  that
>   even at that very conservative figure, its expensive.  But $100 seems
>   high. What is the rate the puja.net pundits  are paid? I thought it was
>   a "high" rate, to attract the  best, around $20-30 / day?
>
>   Your figure of 300-500  rupees is $6-10 /day. Are ingredients / pundit
>   that  expensive?
>
>   Also, the various constraints  discussed in this and adjacent posts
>   point to the need for  more net pundits, not just utilizing existing
>   ones. I know  only Brahmins are allowed to be pundits. Are there
>    sub-castes of Brahmins from which most pundits come? Some  sub-castes
>   of Brahmins that cannot become pundits? Also  women cannot be pundits
>   can they?
>  
>   Presumably the caste restrictions have to do with a  genetic propensity
>   to chant correctly / optimally. How  valid do you believe     
>   this is?  
>
>   Instead of importing pundits, long run it would  seem prudent and more
>   efficient to train pundits locally.  In the US start training local
>   boys and girls. Not from a  long line of genetic brahmins. What are
>   your thoughts on  this?
>
>
>
>
>   --- In  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "benjaminccollins"
>    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   >
>    >
>   > A decent yagaya will cost a LOT more than  $10/day.  A qualified
priest
>   > will want to be  paid at least 300-500 rupees per day and will expect
>   >  to be transported, housed, and fed.  Are they expected to
campout  for
>   > 40 days?  If not, then where will they be  housed.
>   >
>   > The yagya itself  will require lots of materials (ghee, fruits,
>   >  sandalwood, etc. which are not cheap even in India.  But  with
100,000
>   > priests then you are talking  (literally) tons of fruits, coconuts,
>   > ghee, flowers,  etc.  I honestly doubt that the  physical
infrastructure
>   > would be there to simply  move all these materials to the site on a
>   > daily basis  without major amounts of chaos.
>   >
>    > And consider the  support staff which will have to be  considerable;
>   > cooks, people to manage all the yagya  supplies, etc.  Figure
that for
>   > every 50  priests you will need another 10-15 people and they  too
will
>   > want to be paid, need to be housed and  fed.
>   >
>   > Bottom line?  If  it could be organized...then it would take 125,000
>   >  people in total and your total costs per person would be at
least  $100
>   > per day.  A lot of money for 40  days...
>   >
>   > As a point of  perspective, I helped organize a 1 week yagya with 108
>    > priests in India for Michael Love's 61st birthday several years
ago.  
>   > It was a  logistical nightmare...we pulled it  off but it took a huge
>   > amount of work.  As I  recall, we spent about $35,000 which would be
>   > close  to $50/day and what we did was very simple.
>   >  
>   > Finally, in India priests are divided into 2  categories; temple
>   > priests (bhattars) and "outside"  priests (shastrigal) who perform
>   > pujas/yagyas in  people's homes etc.  The temple priests would not be
>    > able to participate in the large scale yagya because their  temple
>   > duties are very rigid and rather strictly  enforced.  Long term
>   > absences are not generally  an option.
>   >
>   > That leaves the  shastri's.  How do you contact them?  There is  no
>   > organization...no database...no master phone  list.  And you want to
>   > make 100,000 phone  calls..in India?!  
>   >
>   >  The other option is to create priests...get 100,000 people and  teach
>   > them a mantra and a simple yagya.  But  even then, to be done
properly
>   > you would have to  have a real priest supervising and doing the more
>   >  complicated mantras that area done for a yagya.  Say a ratio of
1  real
>   > priest to 25 new priests and you still have to  find 4,000 qualified
>   > priests.  Even then in the  hands of beginers the mantras will have
>   > (relatively  speaking) no power.  So what's the point in doing it?
>    >
>   > Finally, from recent reports, MMY wants to do  this yagya as a
>   > Sudarshana Yagya.  Sudarshana is  Vishnu's weapon; a discus of light
>   > given to him by  Lord Shiva.  The times I have seen a priest who has
>    > mastered the mantra use it are very very impressive.  It is not  a
>   > gentle peace love and understanding sort of  mantra.  So if MMY pulls
>   > this off, we can expect  some fireworks in some form.
>   >
>    > Ben
>   >
>   >  
>   >
>   >
>   >  
>   >
>   >
>   >  
>   > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>   > >  
>   > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  "benjaminccollins"
>   > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > >  Not that I have heard of.  But I will try to find out.  I  think
>   > > > 100,000 priests is a LOT of  people.  The TMO will have to
pay them
>   > >  > very well to get good ones to travel north for this.  Many
of  them
>   > > > will have temple duties that can not  be neglected, so it iwll be
>   > > > interesting to  see.  Genuine Priests/Pundits are a  pretty
particular
>   > > > lot so it iwll be  interesting to see what happens.  Not saying
>   that  it
>   > > > won't or can't happen, but it will take  a lot of money!
>   > > >
>   >  > > Ben
>   > >
>   > > If  the costwere $10/day for pundits, materials, food and
facilities  --
>   > > probably too low,  the cost would be $40  million for 40 days.
>   > >
>   >  > $25/day would cost  $100 million.
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