--- Bob Brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Bob Brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick > Archer > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > on 4/2/05 4:23 AM, peterklutz at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > According to this fellow, there's no chance > that > > > CC will be mistaken > > > > > for something else - once it hits. > > > > > > > > > > > > According to MMY in his commentary on the > Gita, > > > Ch. 4, vs.. 41, > > > referring to > > > > CC: "Without proper understanding, even the > direct > > > experience of > > > eternal > > > > freedom may be found to create confusion and > > > fear." > > > > > > ********** > > > > > > This quote refers to the onset of witnessing > > > generated by transcending > > > during TM, not its stabilization in CC. The > > > possibility of > > > misunderstanding and being afraid of witnessing > is > > > why it is talked > > > about in advanced TM lectures, but when CC is > > > gained, one's self is > > > permanently unshaken by whatever it witnesses in > the > > > phenomenal world. > > > > > The transition from the mental habits of the mind > in > > waking state to the mental habits in CC can be > very > > uncomfortable. Much fear can be experienced as the > > mind seeks for a self that no longer exists. In > waking > > state the mind seeks and experiences the ego every > few > > seconds. It's actually pretty strange, this > > ego-referral movement, and only noticed in CC. > This is > > a mental habit that needs to be pointed out and > > dropped for many people. > > -Peter > > ****************** > > This is such a thorough misunderstanding of what > Cosmic Consciousness > is -- you seem to have crafted a definition that > would allow you to > see yourself as enlightened (and that's OK, the > Global Country has > not crowned me the CC Cop), but it is simply not > consistent with the > descriptions in Vedic literature (and also expressed > by MMY) and with > the experiences of witnessing that the unenlightened > (like me) have > on the way to Cosmic Consciousness. > > In CC, far from living in fear for a lost self, one > lives the self -- > which is unlimited bliss consciousness -- and merely > witnesses the > body and the rest of the creation. Vasistha: > > "Freed from all conditioning, fully established in > the state of > unmodified consciousness, the yogi remains like a > child or a dumb > person: in him there is bliss, like the blueness of > the sky. This > bliss is not an experience, but the very nature of > consciousness. > Hence, it does not act as a disturbance, but remains > integrated in > the consciousness." (p. 318, > http://tinyurl.com/6xndt )
Bob, that's why I called it a"phase transition". Perhaps it can be framed as a form of final unstressing. I don't think that everybody experiences this, but many do, especially westerners. Obviously this is not a "final" state, but an opening of consciousness to itself that profoundly purifies the mind. -Peter > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
