--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Oh alright. Sounds like you got it all worked out. Except for one
thing which is that ascension and descention are dualistic and
therefore not of the present. I don't really see what ascension or
descension there is since all is suffering. Though I do know what
drug highs and lows feel like. What happens again when one ascends?
Is that anything like crack or ludes? If so, push away Baby.
Ascension/Descension is of the present when it is of known to be of
the present. That is, it is always present as our Universal
Archetype, but may not be perceived as such -- particularly when we
perceive ourself as firmly ensconced in space-time (i.e., "not-here-
now"). As far as I know the whole process is optional. It may begin
not long after Understanding Self as "Brahman," but begins in
earnest after realizing one is not only THAT, but also THAT
collapsing into bindu-point(s). At this point everything is NOT all
the same anymore, and the practice entails finding one's HERE-
NOW "point-of-tension" or need-to-be-of-service or need-to-know.
Much of this process after "Brahman" involves incarnating more and
more thoroughly as Spirit into the body. Ascension carries "bow-
waves" of itself into the "past" which would be experienced as run-
throughs or rehearsals on the subtle planes, generally as a more-or-
less automatic result of the "need-to-know" process of asking
certain questions and receiving certain answers. It would seems that
the vowelled mahamantra may be most useful between "Brahman" and
Ascension ("Shiva"), but I would not want to limit it arbitrarily.
I believe we could say it occurs (getting back to the old model
again) when the Purusha and Prakriti are completely merged in the
new body: Prakriti having ascended all the way to the head and
Purusha having descended all the way to the base. It results after
one has learned to "know (the Universe) by Being," and to raise and
lower the vibration of the so-called "physical" body (perhaps with
help from one's "higher Self" --Pleaidean Self et al.), completely
into Light, and thence levitating up out of and then down into the
physical realms. It results when one sincerely (and innocently)
wants to know what it would feel like to be an "Ascended Master."
The process (like Life) appears to be simultaneously natural and
almost unbelievably intense, as it rearranges all our preconceptions
about reality on the most fundamental levels. If there is more to it
than that, I do not know it; I certainly do not know all there is to
know about it.
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