--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
> No, I experience profound, deep, over-whelming waves > of bliss. That's why I can call it "stupid" because it > is powerful, powerful maya. The experience of bliss > has nothing to do with consciousness. Bliss is the > outward movement of consciousness into the relative. > Bliss is a trap that can suck the mind into samsara > forever. Cosmic heroin. > -Peterananda-ji **** I have sometimes heard the pull to nirvana to be called the pull to death. The more you disconnect from the physical body the easier you have in experiencing nirvana and celestial spheres. Bliss is also cosmic heroin. Once tasting it and you are addicted to it. At least that happened to me. But the experience of bliss HAS something to do with consciousness, and actually a lot. What you make of your addiction to bliss, highly depends on your consciousness or level of awareness. Here you have more options than in drug addiction. If you can appreciate only bliss and you think you are already perfect and the problems you perceive are outside, the outcome can be something like MMY and TMO. It seems to represent a conglomerate of people, who have a lot of dysfunctions, the perception of which they medicate away by their bliss experiences and by living in dream realities. For me bliss is not just an outward movement. It is also a vehicle to dive into subtler levels of subjective experience in the relative. It is the defence mechanisms against pain and discomfort, both mental and physical, that keeps the door to more subtle levels of subjective relative experiences and sensations closed. With these I mean uncomfortable or painful subtle emotions or proto-emotions, or being capable of sensing tensions and possible dysfunctions in the physical body. Simultaneous experiencing of bliss and these less comfortable sensations, that people normally are not at all aware of in themselves, creates a powerful motor for subtle inner healing and transformation. When inner discomfort and pain gets diffused with bliss, well, then it is not pain anymore. When you do this repeatedly to certain kind of sensation of discomfort, your experience of it changes permanently. Then usually also healing has happened. This is slow learning. Gradually you learn to handle more and more. But it needs a lot of attention. There is little space for power trips. The gift is improving health and deep inner satisfaction and inner aliveness. An other big gift is that bliss flows and tranformative inner work gets done while yoy are busily active in the world. It is not an distraction anymore. Irmeli To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/