Thanks Tom & Cindy for your reposting of sutras 52-55 I had read it before & recalled it but this re-- posting has now allowed me to print it out & keep it with my book on the sutras again thanks to you both, I am sure I speak for many others as well.
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita,
Peter Sutphen writes: I'm waiting for Tom to weigh in on this debate! The sutras are not practiced to primarily bring about a siddhi. Tom T responds: OK sucked in again but with 200 new lurkers there must be a few who have not heard me expound on this. It is my cognition that the entire Sidhi practice as taught by MMY was a wonderful use of smoke and mirrors. The real purpose of the Sidhis practice was two fold. First it was to keep the ego busy thinking it would actually learn how to fly and all that other stuff. The second was to learn how to get the mind to actually think at that subtle level. The real purpose was to get every one to innocently practice sutra 52 (Alistair Shearer version as recommended by MMY). If we look at the last and final Sidhi sutra in chapter 3 (Expansion) we arrive at sutra 52 which states "From Sanyama on moments and their succession, the finest discriminative knowledge is born. Sutra 53. "This enables us to distinguish between two objects that are to all appearances identical. Sutra 54: Knowledge born of the finest discrimination takes us to the farthest shore. Sutra 55: And when the translucent intellect is as pure as the Self, there is Enlightenment. Look at 52 through 55 and this is the only place it says that any sutra produces the Big E. All the other sutras are for practice and for the sidhi disclosed. The last sutra says Big E is the result of this sutra 52. Actually sutra 52 was installed at the time we all learned the sidhis. We were beat over the head with the necessity to do a certain number of reps in a bound amount of time. MMY gave you sutra 52 to practice without telling you so. There is a part of every mind that can track time no matter what and if you don't think so remember all the time you ended your meditation at exactly 20 minutes. The instruction to do a finite number of reps in a certain time while you were doing the sidhi prescribed was to do #52 in total innocence. So you have been doing this practice as prescribed by MMY with out knowing it. Best way to hide something is right under your nose in plain sight. Chapter 4 goes on to expound on what happens at the experience level of those who have gained the Big E. Of course experience appears to be a four letter word to our scholars here so lets just say that MMY was and is very sneaky and is a true master. Of course Patanjali doesn't describe this as Mickey Mouse Big E either, could there be some differences of opinion among the sages? Hmm, I wonder. Tom T PS I have been away a lot and will in the future so my posts may be up to 4 days late through the summer. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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