My experience is beyond experience during the TM phase and a honey like smoothness with sanyama on the Name of God. I use the Sanskrit "Sat Naam" which to me conceptualizes consciousness (Sat) knowing itself (Naam). It brings the self into experience so I seem to have both Pure consciousness with no Self and the subtlest universal Self. Similar to the post by Vaj.
Vaj wrote: That the standard text for attainment of Cosmic Consciousness of the Holy Shankaracharya Order mentions the first three verses of pada three and deliberately excludes all siddhi formulae indicating that if you are interested in enlightenment, rather than yogic attainments, then the siddhi formulae are to be specifically left out. The reason? The siddhi formulae will create more vasanas rather than eliminating them. Also they introduce form, when habits of form must be transcended for true enlightenment to dawn. (snip) 53. But Samadhi-with-conceptualization whose object is the Self is the cause both of the eradication of latent tendencies (vasanas) and the Samadhi-of-suppression. Therefore we have given it (rather than supernatural powers) serious attention here. This seems to be Samyama where the "Self" is the object --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hence the growing from CC to GC or 'perceiving the finest relative' > as it is referred to by Maharishi. > > You didn't finish your exposition. What happens after you subtly > entertain that thought of God? What is YOUR experience? > > Jai Guru Dev > > Jim > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Effective Prayer is the process of embodying the divine and > becoming > > it's expression The technique of Sanyama can be used to accomplish > this > > > > Meditation is the process of bringing the attention inward to > > stillness, inner silence, pure bliss consciousness, the witness > state, > > samadhi. All of these describe aspects of the same thing. We have a > > particular meditation procedure that we do for set amount of time > > twice daily. It works like clockwork and, over time, as we meditate > > each day and then go out and be active, our nervous system becomes > > naturally accustomed to sustaining and radiating inner silence. Our > > daily life then becomes calmer from the inside. We are less > > overwhelmed by external events. This is the rise of the first > stage of > > enlightenment, which is inner silence present in our life twenty- > four > > hours a day, seven days a week. > > > > Once we have some inner silence, even just a little, we have the > > opportunity to begin to operate from that level of infinite > potential > > in us. All that exists is manifested from that, and we, being that, > > are capable of manifesting from that infinite reservoir of life > within > > us. So, with our toe in the infinite, we can begin to move from > there > > for the benefit our transformation to enlightenment. It is simple > to > > do. You will recall that in meditation we use the thought of a > sound > > with no meaning, the mantra, to systematically allow the mind to > go to > > stillness. It is in letting go of any meaning, language or > > intellectual content, and just easily picking up the thought of the > > mantra, that is able to dive deep into pure bliss consciousness. > The > > nervous system also goes to silence with the mind, and our > metabolism > > slows way down. > > > > With samyama, we begin to go the other way. After our meditation > time > > is up, we rest for a minute or two and we transition into samyama. > We > > begin with an easy state of not thinking, just resting in our > silence. > > If thoughts are coming, we just let them go without entertaining > them. > > In samyama practice we do not entertain the mantra either. We > start by > > not favoring anything but being easy in our silence, however much > > silence we have from our just completed meditation session, and > > naturally present in us from our months or years of daily > meditation. > > This is the starting point for samyama -- silence. The only > > prerequisite for doing samyama practice is having some inner > silence. > > For most people this is after a few months of daily deep > meditation, > > as covered in the early lessons. Now we are ready to begin samyama > > practice. Here is how we do it. > > > > With samyama, we are initiating meaning in silence. We do it in a > > simple, easy, systematic way. First we create an impulse of > meaning in > > silence, and then we let it go in silence. > > > > Let's begin with the Name of God. It is a good place to start with > > samyama. In samyama it is suggested you use your most intimate > > language, the language that goes deepest in your heart, whatever it > > may be. > > > > In your easy silence, pick up, just once, the fuzziest feeling of > the > > Name of God. Don't deliberately make a clear pronunciation, or > mental > > images of this or that scene or situation that represent the Name > of > > God. Just have a faint remembrance of the Name of God, and then > let go > > into your silence, the easy silence you are in as you pick up the > > faint meaning of the Name of God. Don't contemplate the Name of > God or > > analyze it during samyama. Don't think about it at all. Just come > to > > it once in a faint, subtle way, and then let go into silence. It > is a > > subtle feeling of the Name we are coming to, nothing more, and > letting > > it go. Like that. > > > > Having thought "the Name" once, be in silence for about fifteen > > seconds. If any thoughts come, let them go easily. Don't look at > the > > clock. With a little practice your inner clock will tell you with > good > > enough accuracy when fifteen seconds is up. Just be easy in silence > > for about a quarter of a minute. Then pick up the faint, fuzzy > meaning > > of "the Name" again, and let it go again into your silence for > about > > fifteen seconds again. This for example is two repetitions of > samyama > > – twice picking up the Name at its subtlest level of thought, and > > letting it go into inner silence. What is the effect of this? What > > will happen? > > > > To the extent we are picking up meaning on the border of inner > silence > > (the subtlest level of thought), and then letting go easily into > our > > silence, the effect will be very powerful. Inner silence is a huge > > amplifier of subtle thought. Inner silence is the only amplifier of > > thought. It is the source of thought. Usually our thoughts come > out of > > silence stimulated by all that is lodged in our subconscious mind. > So > > many habitual patterns are lodged in our obstructed subconscious > mind, > > and these are what distort and weaken the flow of divine energy > coming > > out from inner silence into our everyday life. With meditation we > are > > clearing out the obstructions in the subconscious mind and > developing > > a clear awareness of our inner silence. With samyama we are acting > > directly within our inner > > silence to produce an outflow of positive effects that purify our > > nervous system and surroundings in powerful ways. > > > > During samyama maybe we will feel some energy moving out from our > > silence. It can be experienced as physical, mental or emotional. Or > > maybe we won't feel much until later in activity, and then we are > more > > loving and compassionate for no obvious external reason. We are > > changing from the inside. This is what samyama is – moving > intentions > > from the divine level of silence in us out into external > manifestation. > > > > Samyama is what prayer is when it is taken to its deepest level of > > communion with the divine inside us – taken within divine inner > > silence. Effective prayer is based on the principles of samyama we > are > > discussing here. > > > > Each thought/meaning we use in samyama is called a "sutra." In > > sanskrit, sutra means, "to tie together, or to stitch." The English > > medical word, "suture" comes from sutra. In samyama, sutras are > bits > > of meaning we give to unbounded pure bliss consciousness to amplify > > out into everyday life, to "tie together" our inner and outer life. > > So, sutras are bits of yoga we can consciously cultivate in > ourselves > > through samyama practice. > > > > In the third chapter, or book, of Patanjali's Yoga Sutras on > > supernormal powers, many sutras are given for many different > things. > > All this information is not for obtaining instant results or > powers. > > If it were, it would not be doing anyone a favor in terms of > gaining > > enlightenment. All those powers would be a great distraction to > yoga > > if they were so easily obtained. Fortunately, as mentioned in the > last > > lesson, samyama is morally a self-regulating practice, which means > > inner silence (Samadhi) is the prerequisite for success in > samyama. If > > there is inner silence, there will also be moral responsibility and > > conduct (yama and niyama), due to the connectedness of all the > limbs > > of yoga. > > > > Samyama is having inner silence (samadhi), and the ability to pick > up > > a thought (focus/dharana) and let it go inward (meditation/dhyana). > > Then the results of samyama come out from inner silence > automatically. > > If we have the last three limbs of yoga, we will also have the > other > > limbs, so powers from samyama will be divine in purpose. Even so, > we > > should be clear about experiences versus practices, as always, and > be > > mindful not to get caught up in experiences that come up. When > > experiences come up, we easily come back to the practice we are > doing. > > > > As with all advanced yoga practices, the real benefits from samyama > > are to be found in long term daily practice of a particular > routine of > > sutras. If we keep changing sutras around every day or week, and > are > > irregular in our practice, the results will not accumulate. If we > want > > to strike water, we will do best to keep digging in the same > place. In > > advanced yoga practices we can do samyama after every meditation > > session, and then our ending rest period. Samyama is a > continuation of > > our meditation practice. First we are going in with meditation, and > > then we are coming out with samyama. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
