--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On May 18, 2005, at 4:35 PM, t3rinity wrote:
> 
> > Attachment to the Siddhis is not encouraged, nor is effort being 
used.
> > The Siddhis - if they occure, are seen as a side-effect, and 
function
> > only in conjunction with pure awareness. No CC gets lost 
therefore.
> > Steve, next time around, wrap the text first before you upload 
it.
> >
> 
> Effort should be understood here as "supports" used in many intro. 
> meditation methods like manasika-japa (which uses a mantra a 
mental 
> support) and certainly samyama (which uses formulae)--and 
therefore, as 
> the yogis would say "the disease of effort"--form of any kind--is 
still 
> present. And of course we know a form of samyama is used in the 
> TM-Sidhi program, no? While relatively speaking these may be 
construed 
> or sold as effortless, from a yogic perspective this is not the 
case.

Can you give us an example of some practice that is effortless or 
are you saying that any practice or technique cannot help but 
involve effort?

Rick Carlstrom




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