--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 5/19/05 8:04 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On May 19, 2005, at 8:49 AM, claudiouk wrote:
> > 
> >> For comparison's sake, what then would be the instructions for a 
truly
> >> effortless, "formless" meditation?
> > 
> > Probably impossible to describe by typing. If often requires a 
type of
> > "pointing out" instruction whereby the enlightened condition is
> > introduced and then "pointed out". Not everyone one will get 
this. Some
> > can, some can't.
> 
> Haven't had a chance to read you essay yet, but at Estes Park 
Maharishi
> pointed out that there really was some effort in TM. He quoted the 
Vedas as
> saying, "Be easy to us with gentle effort."

PYS I 12:

abhyaasa-vairaagyaabhyaaM tan-nirodhaH

Taimni's translation:

Their [of the vRtti-s] suppression (is brought about)
by persistent practice and non-attachment.

I 13:

tatra sthitau yatno 'bhyaasaH

/abhyaasa/ is the *effort* [yatnaH] for being firmly 
established in that state (of /citta-vRtti-nirodha/, i.e, yoga).




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