Hi Richard,

In the text below you appear to be admitting that bija mantras are 
used in TM!

Why the sudden change of mind,are you a little confused?

Namaste,

Billy



[FairfieldLife] Re: Did MMY's Guru Dev teach TM? Anybody 
know.........
Richard J. Williams
Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:55:44 -0800

wgm4u wrote:
>
> Just wondering if the 'tradition' starts with MMY. :-)
>
Billy - The TM tradition probably originated with the Nath alchemists
of medieval India, the so-called "Eighty-four Mahasiddhas" and with
Matsyendranath, the inventor of Hatha Yoga. This tradition was taken
to Kashmir where it became the Trika system and then later to South
Asia to become the Sri Vidya tradition of Shankara.

According to what I've read, Guru Dev's teacher was Swami Krishanand
Saraswati of Sringeri. If so, that means that Guru Dev was, like his
teacher, a student of the Sri Vidya, which was established by 
Shankara
at Sringeri. Apparently there are three TM bija mantras inscribed on
the Sri Chakra, which is ensconced at the Sringeri temple.

It is a fact that all the Saraswati Dasanamis worship the Sri Vidya.
It is also a fact that the Sri Chakra is ensconced on the mandir at
Dwarka and at the Kanchi Mathas. It is also a fact that all the
Adwaita Sannyasins claim that Adi Shankara established four mathas as
seats of learning and for the worship of Sri Vidya. In addition, all
the Shankaracharyas agree that Shankara composed the Soundaryalahari,
with the TM bija mantras included among the thirteeen other bija 
mantras.

According to the Shankaracharya of Sringeri, the Adi Shankara placed
the Sri Chakra, symbol of Tripurasundari, with the TM mantras
inscribed thereon, at each of the seats of learning - Dwarka, Puri,
Sringeri, Kanchi and at Jyotirmath. The mantras of TM are DIRECTLY
related to Sri Vidya. At least three TM bija mantras appear inscribed
on the Sri Chakra.

According to Swami Rama, Guru Dev was fond of the Sri Chakra and used
one in his puja. So, if the Sri Chakra has the TM mantras written on
it, and Shankara wrote the Soundaryalahari, with the thirteen bija
mantras, three of which are used in the practice of TM, we can assume
that the TM bija mantras used by MMY are derived from the Tantric
Tradition of Shankara as practiced in Kerala State.
  



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