"If they [believers in quantum physics being related to pure
consciousness, spirit, etc.] try to take something like the quantum
vacuum potential or some quantum level of reality that seems to be
unmanifest and they want to say "that's spirit", "that's Brahman",
"that's Tao" and it gives rise to this manifest world "over here". And
they want to say that as a concrete actual reality, in other words
there really is this "thing" over here that gives rise to this
material electron "over here". Now already you have a "dualistic
spirit"! You just fundamentally messed it up right there.
Actual non-dual spirit is the suchness of everything that's arising.
It doesn't cause anything to do anything. So it's the actual "is-
ness", the suchness, the emptiness that every single thing--anywhere
in the kosmos--is simultaneously. So pure emptiness leaves everything
exactly as it finds it. It doesn't push or pull anything because it's
not separate from anything."
Ken Wilber, Does Physics Prove God?
On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:56 PM, Vaj wrote:
Good point. The Vacuum State is more similar to the akasha (the
space element). And akasha being the so-called "fifth element" is
already within the other elements, in fact it's what they have in
common. But it is also the first (relative value) to separate from
the void.
On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:43 PM, tertonzeno wrote:
-No. There's no connection between Pure Consciousness and the Vacuum
State of any Field, (say the long sought-after Higgs field). The
cosmic/quantum vacuum is seething with energy; but the vacuum can be
equated with an element, the space element; and is thus relative.
