---Precisely, Vaj, and it's freightening that people in the Pentagon believe this crap. Of course, in this scenario the Jews who convert to Christianity are saved, (whether physically alive), or alive then killed by the Anti-Christ. But a remnant of "worthy" saved Jews, the 144,000; remain on earth to spread the Gospel to the world. The 144,000 are subdivided into the 12 tribes of Israel.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 16, 2008, at 6:55 AM, do.rflex wrote: > > > And what pisses me off is when anyone attempts to point this out or to > > even discuss this issue without immediately taking Israel's side, they > > are called 'anti-Semitic' or 'Jew haters' as you did above. > > > There have actually been a number of TV comments on this, one a 60 > Minutes segment on how an ~85% Christian nation which has grown > progressively fundamentalist and tied into the belief that world > destiny centers around a return of Jesus, their saviour, as a > commander in chief type figure who will return in Israel--by > prophetic decree--and slay the non-believers in the real war to end > all wars. It's really a rather bizarre scenario: Christians > supporting Israel so Jesus can return and then slaughter most of the > Jews as Jesus establishes his "kingdom". Jesus as cosmic suicide > bomber in the sky. > > Blue-meme republican nut-cases like Bush actually believe this schlock. > > Haven't you seen the copies of the Left Behind series in racks your > local supermarket? Walmart often prominently displays them. > > See: > > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/03/60minutes/main524268.shtml > > "It is my belief that the Bible Belt in America is Israel's only > safety belt right now," says Rev. Jerry Falwell, one of the leaders > of the Christian Right. That's the bulk of Evangelical Christians; > Falwell claims to speak for all of them. > > "There are 70 million of us," he says. "And if there's one thing that > brings us together quickly it's whenever we begin to detect our > government becoming a little anti-Israel." > > Falwell began to detect just that in April 2002 when President Bush > called on Israel to withdraw its tanks from Palestinian towns on the > West Bank. So Falwell shot off a letter of protest to the White > House, which was followed by a hundred thousand e-mails from > Christian conservatives. Israel did not move its tanks. Mr. Bush did > not ask again. > > "There's nothing that would bring the wrath of the Christian public > in this country down on this government like abandoning or opposing > Israel in a critical matter," Falwell says. The "Christian public" > is, he says, Mr. Bush's core constituency. > > "I really believe when the chips are down Ariel Sharon can trust > George Bush to do the right thing every time," says Falwell. > > ---- > > ...so it all winds up here in Israel where, according to the Book of > Revelations, the final battle in the history of the future will be > fought on an ancient battlefield in northern Israel called > Armageddon. It will follow seven years of tribulation during which > the earth will be shaken by such disasters that previous human > history will seem like a day in the country. The blood will rise as > high as a horse's bridle at Armageddon, before Christ triumphs to > begin his 1,000-year rule. > > And the Jews? Well, two-thirds of them will have been wiped out by > now. But the survivors will accept Jesus at last. > > "The Jews die or convert. As a Jew, I can't feel very comfortable > with the affections of somebody who looks forward to that scenario," > says Gershom Gorenberg, who knows that scenario well. > > Gorenberg is the author of the "End of Days," a book about those > Christian evangelicals who choose to read the Bible literally. "They > don't love real Jewish people. They love us as characters in their > story, in their play, and that's not who we are, and we never > auditioned for that part, and the play is not one that ends up good > for us." > > "If you listen to the drama they're describing, essentially it's a > five-act play in which the Jews disappear in the fourth act." >
