--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20020802224530/minet.org/mantras.html
> 
> Looks like you are right Lawson. In '61 there was a different mantra
> for men and women.
> Ram for dudes and Shiriram for chicks
> 
> By 69 it shifted to the age based system we know and love, but in a
> much more limited form.
>  
This could be correct for 1961 Curtis. But I think by "the beginning" we were 
thinking of 
Beacon Light days...1955. I'm trying like to hell to find the source of my many 
years belief 
that it was just Ram (or Raam) at first.

I am certain I read this. I'll try and find it. (Not that reading something 
makes it true of 
course!)

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