--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "And now write this song for yourselves, teach it to the children of > Israel, and place it in their mouths; in order that this song will be a > witness for Me with the children of Israel" (Duet.31:19). > > (mantra meditation - psalm)?????? > > "11. For this commandment which I command you this day, is not > concealed from you, nor is it far away. 12. It is not in heaven, that > you should say, "Who will go up to heaven for us and fetch it for us, > to tell [it] to us, so that we can fulfill it?" 13. Nor is it beyond > the sea, that you should say, "Who will cross to the other side of the > sea for us and fetch it for us, to tell [it] to us, so that we can > fulfill it?" 14. Rather,[this] thing is very close to you; it is in > your mouth and in your heart, so that you can fulfill it." > > Source: > Deuteronomy 29:9-30:20 > > Note in both cases the reference to "in your mouth", which might be a > not so veiled reference to mantra meditation/invocation? > > Regards,. > > Fred > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > Hebrews 4:12 > > > > 12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any > > twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and > > spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the > > thoughts and intents of the heart. > > A few notes:
The Word is a mistranslation in the NT for the Greek Logos. There is a lot of controversy on the exact meaning. But it definitely does not mean word like we think of word. You don't need me to elaborate great scholars go on infinitum on this. Google it. Meanwhile it has nothing to do with words let alone mantras. Judy is correct. In the old testament the soul is always attached to the body. Both Elijah and Josh ascended to heaven with their bodies. It was not until the middle ages that religious scholars influenced by Plotinus began talking about a soul separate from the body. I tend towards the old interpretation. I believe the body constitutes a necessary condition for the existence of soul or psyche. No body no soul. Kill yourself and see if I am wrong. Fred suggests "in your mouth" may mean mantra. It is no secret that an important part of the three big monotheistic religions use chanting in the observances. These certainly has parallels with eastern chants, but certainly is nothing like the simple work of TM where mantra and thought are on equal footing as part of a natural cycle. However, that does not diminish the positive mystical/social effects of group chanting. Western chants are very similar to traditional Hindu/Buddhist chants in scope and purpose. It is very unfortunate that the bible is written in such a way that it may be interpreted in so many ways. 2000 years of translations, transcriptions and rewrites have not helped. This book is promoted to be the work of an infallible god. Yet its reading and interpretation is subject to the whims and prejudices of very fallible men. When investigating inspiration for a moral life we are much better off inquiring within our rational faculties rather than depending on arbitrary sources such as ancient texts. Quoting it does not make it anymore truthful or moral. Fred, why don't you quote that part of Genesis that talks about how it is OK to sell you daughter into sex slavery? s.
