So Vaj, this study you refer to,the Unique Effect
study, has it been replicated? Is it the only study of
its kind with this finding?  



--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Mar 3, 2008, at 6:08 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela
> Mailander
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > The argument between Judy and Vaj was mostly
> about
> > > who's form of meditation is better and who has
> the
> > > better scientific proof. I think the jury's
> still
> > > out.
> >
> > Actually, the argument between Vaj and me was
> about
> > whether the Buddhist researchers he champions had
> > shown that TM researchers hadn't shown that TM was
> > unique, as Vaj claims they did.
> >
> > I said the Buddhist researchers had ignored large
> > numbers of more recent TM studies and hadn't
> > bothered to grasp what the TM researchers were
> > actually saying about TM's uniqueness.
> >
> > As far as Vaj is concerned, the case against TM is
> > closed.
> >
> > I'm the one saying the jury is still out.
> >
> > (And with this post, I'm gone until Saturday.)
> 
> 
> Uh Judy, it might help to read the study I'm
> actually referring to-- 
> not the one you assumed I was talking about. The
> landmark study that  
> really dismantles a lot of the TM research brouhaha
> is entitled  
> Meditation: In Search of a Unique Effect. The bottom
> line is really  
> rather simple, when you actually compare TMers to
> controls, it turns  
> out to be not nearly as wonderful as what we were
> told and  
> indoctrinated on. In some cases the controls
> actually do better than  
> the TMers! And they are rather systematic about
> dismantling the  
> uniqueness claim while pointing out some good points
> here and there.
> 
> It's really rather a letdown to read. I wouldn't be
> surprised at all  
> to find out the TMO has tried to put countering faux
> research in place  
> over time to attempt to offset it. I wouldn't be
> surprised at all.
> 
> The research you're confusing with the research I'm
> referring to is  
> the Cambridge text. It showed a couple of important
> things, but the  
> most important IMO is that the very basis of the
> Maharishi Effect, the  
> much touted "coherence" that's used to recruit large
> numbers of  
> meditators is really not what we were lead to
> believe, not by a long  
> shot. Another big letdown.


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