Dude, you are preaching to the choir, I play an African gourd banjo in my show. It was an aspect of African American music BEFORE the blues.
If you want to read an actual scholar's work on the subject you can read Dena Epstein's: Sinful Tunes and Spirituals,Black Folk Music to the Civil War Unless Wikipedia is all the depth on the topic you need. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If you studied African percussion you would find that their > > > polyrhythms have nothing to do with the simple work song rhythms > that > > > are the basis of blues and rock in America. If you played both > styles > > > of music you might understand. try playing a 12/15 typical Malian > > > pattern on a Djimbe, and then a shuffle beat on a drum kit.>. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > curtisdeltablues@ wrote: > > > > OffWorld: > > Bullshit..you are totally bullshitting. YOU HAVE NOT EVEN LISTENED TO > > THE AFRICAN BLUES. > > > > EVERY Bluesman in America would DISAGREE with you. What a joke. > > > > > > First of all I study and perform African music in my shows, and second > > I am an American bluesman, it is how I pay my bills.Do the test I > > proposed and you will understand what I am talking about. Oh, sorry, > > you don't play percussion well enough to do it, do you?>> > > "Many of these blues elements, such as the call-and-response format, can > be traced back to the music of Africa > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Africa> . The use of melisma > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melisma> and a wavy, nasal intonation > also suggests a connection between the music of West and Central Africa > and the blues. > [The Jola akonting folk lute] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Akonting.jpg> The Jola akonting > <http://www.myspace.com/akonting> folk lute > Perhaps the most compelling African instrument that is a predecessor to > an African-American instrument is the "Akonting > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akonting> ," a folk lute of the Jola > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jola> tribe of Senegambia > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senegambia_(geography)> . It is a clear > predecessor to the American banjo <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banjo> > in its playing style, the construction of the instrument itself and in > its social role as a folk instrument. The Kora is played by a > professional caste of praise singers for the rich and aristocracy > (called griots <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griot> or jalis) and is > not considered folk music. Jola music was actually not influenced much > by Islam and North African/Middle Eastern music, and this may give us an > important clue as to how African American music does not, according to > many scholars such as Sam Charters > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Charters> , bear hardly any relation > to kora music. Rather, African-American music may reflect a hold over > from a pre-Islamicized form of African music. The music of the Akonting > and that played by on the banjo by elder African-American banjo players, > even into the mid 20th century is easily identified as being very > similar. The akonting is perhaps the most important and concrete link > that exists between African and African-American music." - Wikpedia. > > > > > > Ali Farke Toure studied John Lee Hooker's music to get his blues > > sound. The only African blues that exists is music by guys who > > studied American blues. It is a recent development in African music. > > Have you ever listened to traditional music from Mali or any other > > African country? It has nothing to do with blues. > > Yes, and I have heard more variaty of music than you will in your whole > life. Youa re too Amero-centric to evolve. > > > > > > > Finally, there are many styles of blues. Piedmont blues is influenced > > by another American music form, Ragtime >> > > European influence. You just shot yourself in the foot. > > OffWorld > > > > > > > > > > > Your point about the Celtic influence in American folk music is a > good > > > one. > > > > > > The jazz point was just stupid. the breaking of musical conventional > > > rules that typifies jazz is the exact opposite of the highly > > > traditional and rule based African music. Africans are > > > traditionalists, not innovators. >> > > > > ROTFLMAO ! You are a total small minded American worm that has never > > been outside of Hicksville. Lol... unbelievable ! Jazz is integral to > > Africa. > > > > Me: > > Show me one African artist who played Jazz before it was invented in > > America. Just one. > > > > > > (stupid fucking Americans...it never ends....the stupidity is on all > > levels of life.) > > > > Me: > > Acting like a dick doesn't strengthen your argument, it weakens it. > > > > > > > > > > All the cursing doesn't hide the fact that all British rock is the > > > effete version of the original American version. Your big hair > > > > > examples only draw attention to that fact.>> > > > > Like Jimi Hendrix -- who WAS DISCOVERED BY BRITAIN...NOT AMERICA. > > > > (don't mention Nirvana in this context) > > > > Me: > > After ripping off all of Buddy Guy's licks he was big news in England > > first. That is because any bluesman here already had heard the show > > complete with the guitar behind the head act since T-Bone Walker. > > > > > > > Your point about Jamaican influence in rap was a good one. But inner > > > city black kids who created the American version, like Curtis Blow > > > (real name) came first. Reggae is the original form in Jamaica not > rap. > > > > > > Your boy...<GARY GLITTER,> > > > > > > n 1999, Glitter was convicted of downloading 4,000 images of child > > > pornography in the UK, and was afterwards listed as a sex > offender.[4] > > > His reputation was greatly tarnished, and, though he continued > > > releasing new music, Glitter's popularity declined sharply. He was > > > permanently evicted from Cambodia in 2002 for suspected child sexual > > > abuse offences.[5] He afterwards relocated to Vung Tau in Vietnam, > and > > > in March 2005 applied for permanent resident status.[6] Later that > > > year, he was arrested by Vietnamese authorities while trying to > leave > > > the country, and was tried and convicted of child sexual abuse > charges > > > in 2005-06. On appeal in 2007 his three-year sentence was reduced by > > > three months. He was released from prison on August 19, 2008. > > > > > > I rest my case.>> > > > > No-one likes Pop, or Glitter , except you... > > > > Me: > > WTF? > > > > WayOff: > > I'll only grant you one pardon...that may be enough to forgive you for > > all the rest... > > > > ...Bob Dylan has no comparison anywhere. > > > > > > Me: > > And yet you miss the fact that his music is actually your best case > > for the connection of American folk music and Scottish and Celtic > > music. Nice miss Einstein. > > > > > > > > YOU ARE THE IDIOT THAT SAID POP WAS AMERICAN...its your baby now you > > moron... Abba, Glitter, Cocksuckers from Baltimore (your buddies) > > > > American idiots call Punk -"Grunge", Jamaican rap -"HipHop", African > > Soul -"Blues and Jazz", Afro-Beat -"Funk" Keltic soul -"American Folk > > and Bluegrass", and Techno - "Disco" > > > > I'll finish with an American lyric for your sake: > > > > "Don't wanna be an American idiot. > > One nation controlled by the media. > > Information age of hysteria. > > It's calling out to idiot America." > > > > I'll only grant you one pardon...that may be enough to forgive you for > > all the rest... > > > > ...Bob Dylan has no comparison anywhere. > > > > OffWorld > > >
