--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Americans are recognizing that Obama is a phenomenon in 
> > > > American politics. If there are many racists in the 
Democratic 
> > > > Party, Obama wouldn't have gotten this far in the nominating 
> > > > process.
> > > > 
> > > > IMO, there's a surging consciousness in the USA for a change 
> > > > from the present Republican administration, and it just 
happens 
> > > > to be Obama who is the best one among the Democrats to 
> > > > challenge the Republicans.
> > > 
> > > Whether he succeeds or fails.
> > > 
> > > It's the clash of energies that is important.
> > 
> > In other words, it's the fluctuation of the gunas, in vedic terms.
> 
> No, not at all. Energy -- and the universe composed
> of it -- is far more interesting and complex than
> the dumbed-down triumverate of energies postulated
> by "Vedic" philosophers. 
> 
> You're falling for the good/evil dualistic dichotomy.
> I'm talking about an energy signature which is neither
> good nor evil on either side, because 1) such simplis-
> tic distinctions don't exist, and because 2) all beings
> are a complex *mix* of energies of all sorts.

Well, we would have to wait until the spring of 2009 to find out 
about the truth of the energies you're talking about.  That's the 
time frame that the giant collider in Switzerland will be fixed to 
continue its research on subatomic particles.  But I'm not sure if 
the energies you are referring to can be verified by science.  IMO, 
they should be.



> It also has nothing to do with "evolution" and who
> is more "evolved" or any simplistic horseshit like 
> that.

Barry et al,

The Shrimad Bhagavatam mentions in many occasions that living 
entities are hung up on experiencing the senses that they are willing 
to take rebirth as different life forms on this earth or on other 
planets throughout the universe, or possibly in other universes.  In 
this context, evolution is infinitely relevant.


 It's just that Obama's energy mix is more intelli-
> gent than McCain's, by a long shot. That provides
> people with an opportunity to see which energy they 
> identify with more -- intelligence or idiocy. 
> 
> The fact that the polls (even though they are being
> manipulated) are so close indicates that Americans 
> are torn on this subject.

Since most Americans are fairly well educated compared to world 
standard, one would think that this would be an easy choice.  Most 
people here in the USA would only understand the arguments when their 
loved ones are killed in some faroff countries, and when their 
pockets are burned by layoffs and loss of savings/investments due to 
an economic downturn, such as the current financial crisis in Wall 
Street.


> > 
> > Let's find out who they are by the response that you get.
> 
> You mean like a homosexual calling a straight guy a homo-
> sexual and thinking that it's an insult?  :-)
> 
> THAT is what I'm talking about with regard to the clash
> of energies. It's not a good vs. evil thang; it's an
> intelligence vs. stupidity thang. No one who is the
> least bit intelligent (or sane) is going to go around 
> insulting other people by insinuating that they're 
> *just like them*.

Humans are an odd lot.  Anything can happen.  There are priests who 
enter the service of the church/ashram and preach about the accepted 
doctrines.  Yet at the same time, some of these priests molest 
children and have sex with their parishioners.  






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