When Conyers subpoenaed Rove last 

year, Bush lawyers invoked "executive 


immunity" to stop 
Rove from 
testifying. 
But now Bush is no longer president. 


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Hi 
Team!
*? 2 ALL: 

WILL OBAMA EXECUTIVE 
ORDER TRIP UP ROVE?*

"The Attorney General and the Counsel to the 
President," Obama said in an executive order Jan. 21, "in the 
exercise of their discretion and after appropriate review and consultation 
under 
subsection (a) of this section, may jointly determine that invocation of 
executive privilege is not justified," "The Archivist shall 
be notified promptly of any such determination."

Do you think this Obama 
executive order will trip up Rove? Why or why not?
Greg 
Dempsey
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/SECULARHUM ANIST
Obama - A New Beginning


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Obama order could present 
problems for Rove 

  
  
    John Byrne
Published: Tuesday January 
      27, 2009

    
      
        
        
          

          
            

            
            

  
    

     
A little-noticed twist in an order issued by 
President Barack Obama the day after his inauguration may present problems for 
former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove and other Bush 
Administration 
officials that have been targeted for their alleged role in various 
scandals.

Rove was subpoenaed Monday afternoon by House Judiciary 
Committee Chairman John Conyers (D-MI). 
Determination of executive 
privilege must now also be examined by President Obama's lawyers. In fact, 
Rove's lawyer made direct reference to Obama's role in any future decision to 
enjoin Rove's appearance on the congressional witness stand Monday 
night.

"It's generally agreed that former presidents retain executive 
privilege as to matters occurring during their term," Rove's lawyer, Robert 
Luskin, told The Washington 
Post. "We'll solicit the views of the new White House counsel and, if there 
is a disagreement, assume that the matter will be resolved among the courts, 
the 
president and the former president."

Luskin doesn't concede that Rove 
isn't covered by Bush's blanket immunity, but appears to acknowledge that the 
question of keeping Rove off the witness stand has become more 
complex.


In addition, a White House counsel to President Bill Clinton 
told The Washington Post late 
Monday that a recent executive order issued by President Obama directing the 
National Archives to consult with Justice Department and White House lawyers 
"concerning the Archivist's determination as to whether to honor the former 
president's claim of privilege or instead to disclose the presidential records 
notwithstanding the claim of privilege," could open the door to the release of 
more information relating to controversies under the Bush 
Administration.

"The language," the Post wrote, "according to W. 
Neil Eggleston, a White House associate counsel during the Clinton 
administration, leaves open the possibility that more information could emerge 
in some long-running controversies."

Whether Rove can stay off the 
witness stand indefinitely is an open question. He could certainly plead the 
Fifth -- invoking his constitutional right to avoid self-incrimination -- and 
refuse to answer questions. But Obama's order opened the door to the release of 
presidential records the Bush Administration fought aggressively to keep out of 
the public eye.

On the flip side, Vice President Dick Cheney recently won 
a court case seeking his vice presidential records; the court said that the 
Vice 
President alone gets to make the determination as to which records are personal 
and which records should become public. The Presidential Records Act, which 
requires Administrations to surrender their files to the National Archives upon 
leaving office, provides an exemption for records of a personal 
nature.

Obama might also effectively protect Rove and President Bush by 
retaining a broad interpretation of executive privilege. Such an interpretation 
wouldn't be designed to save Rove from congressional investigators -- instead, 
it would allow Obama to protect himself and his team upon his own departure 
from 
the Oval Office. 

      

    
    
        
        
        
        


        


        
        
        
        
        




      

    
    
        
        
        
        


        


        
        
        
        
        




      

    
    
    
    
              
          

            
        
          




      


      

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