On Feb 9, 2009, at 10:34 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutp...@...>
wrote:
>
> Let me jump into this attachment discussion.
>
> I'd like to argue that you don't know what attachment is until
you experience pure consciousness while the mind functions. Any
attempt to become unattached through the mind is pure mood-making/
manipulation which is worthless.
I don't know that I agree. I think that detachment can occur
through maturity and experience, through living in accordance with
your values. Even if this had nothing to do with pure
consciousness, I disagree that it is irrelevant mood making or is
worthless. It is functioning in a self actualized way, with
empathy and at your best. This is worthwhile, whatever the label.
It's funny, because while some followers of TM path claim to be
established in pure consciousness, none have yet been able to
demonstrate the actual outcome of that identification: control of
waking, dreaming and sleeping. If you're in turiyatita, or CC, you're
quite literally "beyond waking, sleeping and dreaming". It's a
perfect example of the parrot only learning to repeat what the
parrot's heard. Since meditators are given a diluted description,
they learn to identify with the definition they were given, to the
letter--but never, ever (without exception IME) any of the full
criteria. When someone only achieves what they were told, what does
that tell you?
