--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <kirk_bernha...@...> wrote:

This post is what I mean by the term "thoughtful."  Nice one Kirk.


>
> Typical immature narcissism spewing forth as rage and inability to consider 
> other's views or feelings.  I suggest early negative relationships from both 
> parents and siblings.  None of which have ever been worked through so that 
> they are repeated here with all others.
> 
> Meditation can be used as a mask for ones feelings while at the same time it 
> makes those feelings even more appparent.
> 
> TM alone though cannot work out our maladaptive tendencies without further 
> psycho/physical discovery. It's too bad that TM doesn't consider any other 
> type of system as being beneficial. Maharishi is much to blame for this as 
> he thought all therapy outside of his tradition like 'shooting in the dark."
> 
> Ironic then that steady TMers often come across as loose cannons, shooting 
> through fog. I feel pity for Nab, but IMO that doesn't let him off the hook 
> for being a messy mind. He obviously needs help. I believe that most people 
> here can easily ascertain that.
> 
> Many here need help. Without naming names, a few here are patently OCD.
> 
> The day in which we decide to proactively seek a method for bettering 
> ourselves is the day we could be said to be following the path of Dharma. 
> Until then we are merely footballs getting kicked around by happenstance.
> 
> TM alone is not a cure for samskara. Because we still live in karma. We need 
> to learn every method to develop. Openness to ourselves and inner honesty is 
> a sign of maturity.  But narcissism may betray us by giving us a sense of 
> rightness about our negative conditioning.
> 
> Moreover, a person needs to learn to not act from negativity but from 
> compassion. A system which just applies to the retreat setting will not 
> necessarily carry over into activity.
> 
> The way to figure out our intention is to question from where the motive for 
> any action stems. Simply put, does the action stem from warmth or coldness? 
> From pain or pleasure? From seeking to benefit others, or from inner rage at 
> them.
> 
> Of course we get all twisted by our own minds until we cannot even read our 
> own feelings any longer. A habitual liar will not any longer be able to tell 
> the truth, to others, nor to themselves. Therefore what is really needed is 
> the sense of questing for unadulterated truth.  If a seeker doesn't have 
> that thirst for truth then they cannot ever find it in anything.  And they 
> certainly will not come across as being serious about their quest.
> 
> Most likely they will be led astray by any person of charisma.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltabl...@...>
> To: <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:15 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Lightness of Spirit'
> 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >> Regarding my own insults they are the result of my 100% Pitta 
> >> constitution which simply can't stand commoners, hypocrites and fellows 
> >> devoid of even the most basic intelligence. But mellowness is on the rise 
> >> :-)
> >
> > I can understand why you want to believe this, as if it gets you off the 
> > hook for your behavior here.  But I believe the reality is much simpler. 
> > You just don't come across as a thoughtful person. In my life I have never 
> > found that arrogance, like the kind you display here, is hiding anything 
> > interesting.
> >
> >>
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <nelsonriddle2001@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >> > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > > The stories about Saint Teresa of Avilla are just that, stories. 
> >> > > > > To take them as literal facts is insulting to our intelligence 
> >> > > > > today.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Oh, please Curtis. Do not use "our" and "intelligence" based on your 
> >> > > limited understanding of just about anything.
> >> > >
> >> > > There is no "our intelligence" based on your "level"; that's an 
> >> > > insult.
> >> > >
> >> >   On miracles and such,  is it safe to say anything can't be so because 
> >> > it is not in our experience or belief?
> >>
> >> Quite, that seems to be the case. Or not even within the range of the 
> >> deranged intuition of the particular individual.
> >>
> >>
> >> >   On insults and such, I would think that long time seekers would have 
> >> > a level of equanimity and mellowness that would make this quite rare.
> >>
> >> It's not rare on FFL, quite the contrary.
> >> Regarding my own insults they are the result of my 100% Pitta 
> >> constitution which simply can't stand commoners, hypocrites and fellows 
> >> devoid of even the most basic intelligence. But mellowness is on the rise 
> >> :-)
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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