I thought "stopping thought" was a good thing. or at a minimum a step towards a 
good thing. So you are complaining that some have developed a "mahavakaya" that 
can instantly stop thoughts? Wouldn't that actually be a good thing? :) 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> Recently, following up like a mindless TM robot to 
> a mention of the name of the Dalai Lama by someone
> she doesn't like, someone posted a quote from a 
> Google Group. The quote indicated that the Dalai 
> Lama had some positive things to say about former 
> president George W. Bush.
> 
> IMO, the person's intent in posting this was to 
> interject a "thought stopper" into the conversation.
> The idea was that if the Dalai Lama said something
> good about someone we all know to be thoroughly bad,
> then the Dalai Lama couldn't possibly be good, either.
> 
> This just days after doing exactly the same thing 
> when the name of a scientist who wrote a book saying
> that in her opinion all the "quantum consciousness"
> nonsense was in fact nonsense came up. The same person 
> posted what was clearly intended to be another "thought
> stopper" by pointing to a few anonymous "reviews" of
> the book on Amazon. Again, people with feeble minds
> were supposed to *stop thinking* positively about the
> author, and think negatively about her.
> 
> Add to this a long history of this poster and other
> posters on this forum utilizing "thought stoppers" 
> to demonize people they don't like. Call someone a
> "liar" and (in their minds) everyone is supposed to
> stop thinking of the person accused of lying as pos-
> sibly having any positive qualities and instead
> think of them as something less than human. Call 
> someone a "predator" and again the readers are sup-
> posed to *stop thinking* and just write the accused
> person off.
> 
> In this post what I'm suggesting is that those who
> use such "thought stoppers" are demonstrating, more
> than anything else, how quickly their own thought
> processes stop working.
> 
> They lack breadth of vision and compassion. They
> cannot *conceive* of a person being George W. Bush
> and yet having positive qualities. To them, if Bush
> is "bad," he is ALL "bad;" there can be no possible
> positive qualities in the man. Those positive qual-
> ities are not *possible* because he's "bad," and
> if a person is "bad," he's ALL bad. That's what
> they would have you believe. Therefore, if someone
> like the Dalai Lama is able to meet Bush and find
> something in him to praise -- anything -- then *he*
> must be linked to the "bad" Bush and be "bad" 
> himself. 
> 
> Same with calling someone a "liar." Science tells
> us that human beings tell on the average 25 lies 
> a day. A self-honest person can look at themselves
> and realize that they tell lies, too, if only to
> themselves. Only an idiot would claim, "I never 
> lie." But some idiots not only claim this, they
> attempt to use the epithet "Liar!" as a thought
> stopper. Again, the implication is that by calling
> someone a "liar," you can make people think of the
> person you are attempting to demonize as ALL liar. 
> "If they're a liar," the rationale of the thought-
> stopper-hurler goes, "they are *complete* liars. 
> They cannot possibly have any other qualities or 
> attributes. *Stop thinking* of this person as 
> human; only think of them as a 'liar.'"
> 
> Same with the epithet "predator." It conjures up
> images of child molesters and worse. And it is
> *supposed* to. Hurling the term "predator" at some-
> one you don't like is designed to get people to
> *stop thinking* about that person as human. They
> are supposed to think of them the way YOU do, as
> one-dimensional, as ONLY a "predator."
> 
> Same with invoking "Kali Yuga" as a catch-all
> excuse for why things suck. The idea is that one
> can throw that term out and people will stop think-
> ing that there is anything they can possibly *do*
> to *change* how things suck. "You *can't* really
> change it," goes the thought stopper rationale,
> "because it's Kali Yuga. Things *always* suck in
> Kali Yuga."
> 
> I'm pointing this out because I think a lot of 
> people on this forum FALL for "thought stoppers."
> The TM movement was not long on compassion. It
> never taught its followers that a person could be
> partly good, partly bad. The model invoked was 
> always the clear-cut "It's only the Pandavas and 
> the Kauravas, the rakshasas and the perfect saints"
> scenario we see in TM stories. Black and white, no 
> middle ground. So if a person is characterized as 
> black, they are ALL black. 
> 
> As a result IMO, many people who have come out of 
> such an environment are easy prey for those who use 
> thought stoppers as a tool of debate. And the people 
> who *rely* on thought stoppers know this, and use 
> the thought stoppers as often as they possibly can. 
> They know that the audience they are talking to
> has been taught to *despise* "shades of gray" and
> the possibility of feeling compassion for someone
> who has been accused of being "bad." They know that
> many people coming out of a TM environment will 
> automatically consider George W. Bush ALL bad 
> simply because Maharishi once characterized him
> as bad. Therefore they can "springboard" off of
> that and suggest that because someone *else* they
> want to demonize, like the Dalai Lama, once said
> something positive about Bush, he might be ALL 
> bad, too. 
> 
> I think that the use of thought stoppers like this
> is the sign of a lazy intellect. The person who
> uses them frequently is demonstrating that they
> are incapable of thinking *past* a thought stopper,
> and that *their* thought processes stop at the first
> convenient label. And they want you to be just like 
> them.
>


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