off_world_beings wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , Bhairitu <noozg...@...> wrote: > >> off_world_beings wrote: >> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>> > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > >>> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>> > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > , Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > >>>> scienceofabundance wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>>>> > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > >>> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>> > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > , "Richard J. Williams" > >>> <willytex@> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>> So, let's review: in basic TM you get the single >>>>>> seed sound and the fertilizer and you get the >>>>>> simple instructions for the correct angle to >>>>>> dive. You do NOT get any supposed 'nicknames of >>>>>> the gods', or any esoteric metaphysics. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I still don't see why the "single sound" [BTW, I never did get a >>>>> >>>>> >>> single sound....I must have received a special deal.] needs a >>> > fertilizer > >>> - a word that was the only answer ever given by TM teachers - as if >>> repeating the same word over and over again would make the mechanics >>> obvious. >>> >>> >>>>> Could you explain your reasoning as to 1) why the fertilizer is >>>>> >>>>> >>> needed; 2) how it works - rather than simply repeating the word >>> "fertilizer"? Repetition is not explanation (except maybe for some >>> > TM > >>> teachers....:). >>> >>> >>>>> I have never been asked to discriminate among all the elements of >>>>> > my > >>> mantra/fertilizers - following your classification - when meditating >>> (not that I could anyway), so I meditate with the technique given >>> > and > >>> my combination of fertilizers with meanings and one meaningless >>> > sound. > >>>>> Can you explain your reasoning as to what effect the fertilizers - >>>>> >>>>> >>> which have meaning - have on the technique of TM? Since one of the >>> principal repetitions/explanations of the TMO is the importance of a >>> meaningless sound/mantra, the effects of using such a mantra with >>> fertilizers that _have_ meaning needs some explanation to have your >>> reasoning make sense. >>> >>> >>>>> [Another piece of "information" that I recall hearing repeatedly >>>>> > in > >>> the TMO was that the TM technique consisted of 1) a mantra; and 2) a >>> technique to use the mantra. Based on your classification, my TM >>> technique consists of 1) a mantra and some fertilizers; and 2) a >>> technique to use these mantras/fertilizers. However, I definitely >>> > don't > >>> remember that description ever being given.] >>> >>> >>>>> Science >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Pardon me for butting in with your fun with Willy who really has no >>>> >>>> >>> clue >>> >>> >>>> when it comes to mantra shastra but the "advanced" techniques are >>>> > more > >>>> like the mantras traditionally given to the public by yogis and >>>> >>>> >>> tantrics >>> >>> >>>> in India. Except that the ones given by yogis and tantrics have >>>> Omkara: begin with "Om" which contrary to popular belief does not >>>> >>>> >>> cause poverty. >> >>> >>> Especially if you don't know how to incant it properly. Then it has >>> > very > >>> little effect whatsoever. >>> >>> OffWorld >>> >> Om rhymes with home but a lot of people probably seeing it spelled aum >> pronounce it as if it rhymes with bomb and with that pronunciation >> > makes > >> it in Sanskrit a word for fruit. :-D >> >> > > That's as maybe. But if you don't know how to incant it properly. Then > it has very little effect whatsoever. > > OffWorld
That's what the guru is for.
