--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <nelsonriddle2001@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > - Some of us have seen glimpses of them at work- doesn't
> > > take too much to verify that they must be possible.
> > >
> > > - After 32 years, still waiting for verification
> >
> > Hoping something turns up soon.
> > From my observation,I would say it is there but often
> > goes unnoticed.
>
> Either that, or there is no verification possible
> because nothing is happening or will ever happen,
> and the seeker is wasting his life waiting for it
> to happen.
>
> > good luck.
>
> Indeed.
>
> FWIW, the "energy signature" of what Maharishi
> called the sidhis has nothing whatsoever to do
> with the energy signature of actual siddhis being
> performed in my experience. Not even apples and
> oranges...more like apples (real siddhis) and
> Tinkertoys. No relation whatsoever.
>
> I am not the only person who noticed this. There
> were at least three dozen former TM sidhas in
> Rama's study, and we'd often discuss the difference.
> All felt the same way. One "phenomenon" involved
> the mental repetition of some English-language
> phrases from a $3.95 paperback translation of the
> Yoga Sutras and the other involved no mantras, no
> phrases, and no techniques, only the ability to
> actually manifest the phenomena in question. And
> the interesting thing is that the latter could
> be taught to others without words, without the
> use of mantras or phrases, and without the need
> for techniques, using only transmission.
>
> YMMV. But unless you have actually experienced
> siddhis being manifested externally (so that others
> could witness them, not "internally," which can be
> nothing more than moodmaking), your "mileage" has
> no basis for comparison. Mine and the "mileage" of
> the 30-40 former TM sidhas does.
>
> If you disagree, find and post a quote from someone
> who represents a legitimate spiritual tradition
> other than the TM movement who believes that what
> Maharishi sold as the "sidhis" have any relationship
> to actual siddhis, or what Patanjali was writing
> about. I'd be interested in seeing such a quote, and
> don't remember ever having seen one. don't know that
> such quotes do not exist, but I suspect that they do
> not. And if they don't, then it seems to me that
> those who believe that TM sidhis are really siddhis
> are basing their entire view of the subject on one
> word -- "Maharishisez."
>
> Is that enough to constitute "truth" in your view?
>
> It's OK if it is, blind faith being unchallengable
> and all that, but wouldn't it be more honest to
> admit that faith in "Maharishisez" is your only
> reason for believing that the TM sidhis are what
> they were sold as being?
>
Don't care much for faith as I have "an ounce of expierience is worth a ton
of faith" viewpoint.
I see more of "one with the universe" type of things than particular sidhis
like whenI need to see someone, they show up or the traffic lights will be
green when I get there etc.
