--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> OK, just for fun, I think I've hit upon a way of explaining the
> "mulitple- and separate-reality" model to those who prefer
> to believe that when it comes to Reality, "There can only
> be One."
> 
> My idea (and remember, this is just for fun) is to try to explain
> to those who are not database dweebs the difference between
> hierarchical and relational databases. My opinion is that the
> problem with most religious or spiritual models is that they
> are hierarchical, whereas the universe they are trying to
> describe or "define" is relational.
> 
> From Wikipedia: "A hierarchical data model is a data model
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_model>  in which the data is
> organized into a tree <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_data_structure>
> -like structure. The structure allows repeating information using
> parent/child relationships: each parent can have many children but each
> child only has one parent. All attributes of a specific record are
> listed under an entity type."
> 
>  
> [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Hierarchical_M\
> odel.jpg/320px-Hierarchical_Model.jpg] 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hierarchical_Model.jpg>
>   <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hierarchical_Model.jpg> Notice the
> tree structure? Now put "Brahman" in the top (parent)
> box and everything else in the lower (child) boxes and you have
> the Vedic or Hindu view of the universe. Put "God" in the parent
> box and everything else in the child boxes and you have Judaism
> and Christianity and all theist religions.
> 
> And, in my opinion, you *also* have the basis of their view of what
> "Reality" entails. In their view, "there can be only One" because
> they perceive the universe hierarchically, all "descended" from one
> "parent" that resides at the top of the tree structure.
> 
> Again, from Wikipedia: "The relational model for database
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database>  management is a database model
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_model>  based on first-order
> predicate logic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-order_logic> , first
> formulated and proposed in 1969 by E.F. Codd
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_F._Codd> . Its core idea is to
> describe a database as a collection of predicates
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predicate_%28mathematical_logic%29>  over
> a finite set of predicate variables, describing constraints
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constraint_%28database%29>  on the
> possible values and combinations of values. The content of the database
> at any given time is a finite (logical) model
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_%28logic%29>  of the database, i.e.
> a set of relations
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relation_%28database%29> , one per
> predicate variable, such that all predicates are satisfied."
> 
>  
> [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Relational_Mod\
> el_2.jpg/280px-Relational_Model_2.jpg] 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Relational_Model_2.jpg>
>   <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Relational_Model_2.jpg> In the
> relational model, different elements are *not* necessarily
> bound in a parent-child relationship. Any type of relationship is
> possible, including equal-to-equal. The links between different
> tables (elements of the database or, in this analogy, elements of
> creation) exist only to provide access from one element to another,
> not necessarily to define any kind of hierarchy or dependency.
> 
> I think that the universe is relational, not
> hierarchical.
> 
> I think the same thing about realities. That they
> all exist, as separate elements, linked only by
> one's ability to access one from another, not by
> any kind of hierarchy or parent-child relationship.

You do realize that you've just described One
Reality, one meta-Reality or Ultimate Reality,
right?

> In a relational universe, the fact that one person
> (call him a "seer" in the Vedic or mystical sense,
> in that he "sees" things differently than others
> around him, and talks about it) perceives the
> universe differently than others does NOT imply
> that he is "seeing" the top level of a hierarchical
> tree, the "Brahman" or "God" box in the tree 
> structure.

Unless he is.

Whatever the relationship or lack of same between
and among multiple realities, there's always going
to be a meta-Reality (which in Vedanta is called
Brahman).


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