Isn't it interesting how quickly "hacked" emails claiming a global warming cover-up can heat up the rhetoric of global warming deniers and media blowhards like Rush and Glenn just in time to undermine the Copenhagen summit? Obviously, they're all just a bunch of hysterical toadies doing the bidding of their corporate big oil buddies who value profits over people. What good is all the money in the world if we don't have a livable planet? RD
From: http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/25/superfreaks-climategate/ In the comments linking to: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/#more-1853 "It's extremely doubtful that any of the people claiming that the theft of these documents has "proven" that GW is a fraud have even read them there are thousands or that they're capable of even understanding what they are reading. RealClimate has responded here, [see quote below] and this are some relevant paragraphs (being scientists, they tend to be more than a little verbose, but feel free to read the whole thing):" "Since emails are normally intended to be private, people writing them are, shall we say, somewhat freer in expressing themselves than they would in a public statement. For instance, we are sure it comes as no shock to know that many scientists do not hold Steve McIntyre in high regard. Nor that a large group of them thought that the Soon and Baliunas (2003), Douglass et al (2008) or McClean et al (2009) papers were not very good (to say the least) and should not have been published. These sentiments have been made abundantly clear in the literature (though possibly less bluntly). More interesting is what is not contained in the emails. There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research, no grand plan to `get rid of the MWP', no admission that global warming is a hoax, no evidence of the falsifying of data, and no `marching orders' from our socialist/communist/vegetarian overlords. The truly paranoid will put this down to the hackers also being in on the plot though. Instead, there is a peek into how scientists actually interact and the conflicts show that the community is a far cry from the monolith that is sometimes imagined. People working constructively to improve joint publications; scientists who are friendly and agree on many of the big picture issues, disagreeing at times about details and engaging in `robust' discussions; Scientists expressing frustration at the misrepresentation of their work in politicized arenas and complaining when media reports get it wrong; Scientists resenting the time they have to take out of their research to deal with over-hyped nonsense. None of this should be shocking." "We've already seen at least one of our trolls, and I've seen others elsewhere, making feverish claims about the "overwhelming blow" struck by deniers with this theft and selective quotation." --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <do.rf...@...> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG" <wgm4u@> wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHW7KR33IQ&feature=related > > > > > John Coleman is another discredited Global Warming denier. > > Where's this list of 30,000 scientists and the included 9,000 PHDs that > this man claims? It's a debunked fraud. > > Climate Denial Crock of the Week - The Fraud of the 30,000 Scientists > > WATCH VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P8mlF8KT6I > > > But, don't give up hope, Billy! You too can become another 'scientist' > on the list of 30,000 'scientists' John Coleman is talking about! > > Look how easy it is to become a Global Warming denier scientist. All you > have to do is fill out a card they send you and write anything you want > on it. > > Here's a sample: > > [petitionproj.jpg image by infernojones] > You can also see it at their website: > http://www.oism.org/pproject/GWPetition.pdf > > If you want to fill out a card yourself and become another Global > Warming denier scientist, here's how: http://www.oism.org/pproject/ >
