--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltabl...@...> 
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m 13 <meowthirteen@> wrote:
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>  So for me there can be evil and not giving a kill bite instinct to all 
> animals if you had the power is at the top of my list.  

> However as an evolutionary priority that overlooks my sensibility without a 
> "God", I understand how it happened.

Does that make the kill bite instinct, (or aggressions, fighting, war,) 
intrinsically bad? They are not my cup of tea. I am more the hippie pacifist 
type.  I don't care  for football, boxing or cockfighting much -- though I 
realize millions in various cultures live for that shit.  But if Good and Evil 
are the tags we spray paint on the world, can I call those things evil? (not 
calling them evil certainly does not mean they are good.)  

con't after the next section.



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> > Pray for peace
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> Well we know that nothing fails like prayer.  
>Just ask anyone who went down in a fireball plane crash and was praying their 
>ass off all the way down.



Did you ask them? Or was that your experience? [some intersting sidetrip mirth 
possible here, but I digress]

Well, there are two things here. prayer to a presumed Supreme Being (ha, how is 
Being superior to other Being). And Life after bodily death. On the latter .. 

one of the fascinating things about life and its inevitable death is the 
quandry- is there any continuation of anything? lots of near-death experiences, 
upon coming back from prolong breath halt, many report -- ya know, tunnel of 
light, etc. -- that the other side is so good they didn't want to come back to 
"Life". Maybe its just the experience caused by neurons shutting down I don't 
know - nor pretend to know. Maybe this consciousness is a continuum, maybe a 
brief shining light -- once gone, ever extinguished. who could know for sure. 
Who could deny for sure.

So stripping off the pretty ribbons of emergency prayers to a Supreme Being at 
the hour of need -- and leaving it to the question of if the body drops away 
and the continum is still there -- then prayer is superfulous. As it is if its 
just darkness, lights out, good night Irene. 

So if you have the scoop on the existence of prayer and a Supreme Being, cool. 
But do you have the certain scoop on continuation of the inner deeper life 
within? I don't.


> But with the unlimited naivete of our species that makes us so charming, I 
> hope for peace too.

Do my comments above make me naive? Or full of wonder? (or just the obvious, 
full of shit)


...

con't of prior section 

 ... but if Good and Evil are the tags we spray paint on the world, can I call 
those things evil? (not calling them evil certainly does not mean they are 
good.)  

If continuity of life is what occurs, then violence, as well as peace and love, 
have a broader context. Life continues. The playground gets real. Lots of 
opportunities to learn "life lessons", body after body. 

I never got "fascism" how and why one could get sucked into that (other than a 
decade of depression, hyperinflation, etc. -- partial explanations.) But I read 
recently a fascist view of militarism and aggressions -- that it was seen as a 
process to promote most rapid social change and growth. While not an advocate 
or fan, if viewed in the context of the continuity of life, then the rapid turn 
over of life could lead to the survival of the fittest paradigm prevalent in 
nature. so even the kill bite instinct may have a plays in the grand scheme of 
things. I really don't know.

And I am sure Charles Manson's types have spewed such in self-serving ways 
through the ages. But, that aside, if one drops the spray paint gloss of  Good 
and Evil, and of Certainty (about things like "after death") -- then one is let 
with ... who knows.






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