--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" <shempmcg...@...> wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > You are aware that isn't one of the issues on the
> > table, right? So what would be the point?
> 
> My personal choice; what I would like to see.

OK, but you said:

> > > Enough already with the nuances, compromises, and all
> > > the crap that is happening.  Let the people decide
> > > once and for all.  Enough with this on-going debate.

The only way the outcome of your referendum could have any
effect whatsoever on the ongoing debate would be if a
resounding majority voted *for* single-payer; and we know
that isn't going to happen. If a strong majority of voters
favored single-payer, we'd have had entirely different
proposals from the start than we have now. Nothing that's
currently being discussed involves single-payer, so a no
vote would have zero effect on the ongoing debate.

In other words, the people have decided long since. There
has never been more than a small minority who were in
favor of single-payer (and most of them--like me--realize
it's a nonstarter, however much they'd like to see it).

A referendum would help end the debate only if it were on
some issue *that was currently being debated*. Single-
payer isn't such an issue. I only wish enough people
wanted it to make it an issue.



> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I believe in representative democracy.  That is, we elect people to 
> > > represent us.  Once elected and sitting in their legislature, I trust our 
> > > elected representatives to make the important decisions for us.
> > > 
> > > But for those issues where our representatives are NOT able to capably 
> > > represent us and come to a firm decision as a result of the cut and 
> > > thrust of parliamentary debate, alternatives should be looked at.
> > > 
> > > The healthcare debate is one such example.
> > > 
> > > What I think should happen is this: a referendum question with a "yes" or 
> > > "no" option for the voter should be presented on a national level.  And 
> > > the question should be something to the effect:
> > > 
> > > "Do you want a universal one-payer system for healthcare in the United 
> > > States?"
> > > 
> > > And then let the games begin.
> > > 
> > > What do you folks think?


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