--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > "Is it live or is it Memorex?" > > > > > > 'Nuff said. > > > > Says Barry, neatly but entirely inadvertently > > stepping on his own point. The Memorex slogan > > highlights the *accuracy* of the reproduction-- > > one can't even be sure which one is hearing, the > > live or the recorded performance. That's similar > > to the situation with MMY's teaching, unlike with > > that of Jesus, where we don't even have the > > Memorex. > > Again dealing with the issue, let's take an > example of "MMY's teaching," and have you tell > us what his teaching "really" was, based on > the recordings. > > If you were able to get ahold of tapes from > Squaw Valley 1968, you would hear a fellow who > was sitting next to me ask Maharishi about the > siddhis, in particular things like levitation. > Maharishi's response was, "Capture the fort." > He told this fellow, and the whole audience > to have *nothing* to do with the siddhis. He > said emphatically that they were a *distrac- > tion* to the enlightenment process, possibly > dangerous, and unnecessary because if one > transcended regularly via TM you would "capture > the fort" with no need to waste time trying to > capture outlying "minor outposts" like "flying." > > Cut to the 1976-77 period, during which MMY > taught emphatically that everyone should learn > to "fly" using the TM-Sidhi techniques he was > experimenting with, because it would greatly > speed their own enlightenment. This is also > recorded on Memorex. > > Later being able to actually levitate became > the "proof" of full enlightenment or Unity, also > recorded on tape. Then it became less about the > individual, and more of a thing you do for the > world, creating powerful waves of invincibility > for the nation and the world. Again, probably > recorded on tape. > > So which tape is "What Maharishi taught?" I'll wait.
All of them. <duh> > The *naivete* of believing that one can read *one > instance* of teaching on a particular subject and > "know" from that "What a teacher taught" astounds > to me. Lots of things that "astound to" [sic] you never existed anywhere but in your own mind. The above is an excellent example. Teachers contradict themselves from year > to year, sometimes more often. Teachers say one > thing to one audience and another thing to another > audience. What is recorded on Memorex may have been > spoken to a large group or to a particular person > asking a question. If the latter, is it an answer > for everyone in the room and everyone listening to > the tape, or just the person who asked the question? > > The idea that one can learn about a spiritual > teacher's teaching by "listening to the tapes" or > "reading the books" assumes two things that my > experience has shown me are not true. The first > is that teachings can be assumed to be static. That's an assumption you've fabricated and attributed to me, not one I've ever made. In > reality teachings *change* from time to time and > from audience to audience. Quite likely. And so...? What does that have to do with anything? > The second is more important, and has to do with > teachings about the nature enlightenment itself. > That can *never* be captured in words, so it doesn't > matter how many tapes you listen to, you still aren't > going to be able to understand enlightenment. Another assumption you've fabricated and attributed to me, not one I've ever made. In fact, that enlightenment can never be captured in words *is exactly what MMY taught*.
