I am really enjoying everyone's comments on this subject thread. Thank you to everyone.
No one is wrong with opinions. : ) I would hope the subject of Jyotish would only give a weather report. Tendencies can be vague but for the subject of exchange of money for the informational opinion, one could string along a buyer a lot longer than giving actual predictions. The long life predictions by many Jyotishi's told to only give good/positive information ends up looking like false readings to some, and many scramble away to look for another who is more qualified or who will tell a story from the reading that fits the buyer's ego to satisfaction of Jyotish prediction product. It is very entertaining to take spare money to throw at such a "science of age." I see nothing wrong with it, to venture into the world of possibilities that may be created by the action of going to a jyotishi and then to start basing one's life on a reading, could appear to make the prediction possble or real. How long someone will live, by more than one Jyotishi "prediction," telling one they will live a long life into their late 80's or 90's and they die in their 50's really throws a wrench in the bike wheel of "believing" in the science. I am very interested in the subject in my spare time and have given the ephemeris a looking into regularly to see if tendancies and sort of bio-rhythms of life match to any consistency. It is hard to learn of the subject when so many so called experts give opposing views of a prediction which can appear to discredit the "science" and only line pockets with green stuff. ________________________________ From: Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 13 May, 2010 11:36:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh tell me great one of Jyotish! obbajeeba wrote: > Curious to know what people think here about Jyotish and the art of telling > of this subject. No one has to explain the subject that the sun is up there, > and the moon too and the other planets hovering about, being on the inner and > outer of life as the same, or the placements, etc. > Please do give any opinion or knowing of experiences with Jyotishi's. Good or > bad. > What about the delivery of the subject in these modern times? > Experiences from skeptics, knowers are appreciated on this subject. > Please tell, oh great one!......? Of course one has to put aside the naysayer ramblings from the "peanut gallerly" or is it the drunks at the end of the bar who wouldn't know an ayanamsha from a buffalo wing nor a vimshottari dasha from Donner and Blitzen. I have studied these things and they have not (to borrow from Sir Isaac Newton). ;-) And having studied jyotish there is much truth to it. I have always found, given correct birth data, that people tend to follow the careers outlined in their chart or at least wonder if what they would be better of following that inclination to do so when they are banging their head against the wall in their current career. And how often when I hear someone ask about why their life is going so bad right now I can almost guess that the lunar nodes, not planets at all, are up to some mischief transiting some critical point in their chart. Jyotish can be quite uncanny in these. I look upon it as a weather report which might tell you it "may" rain today and often it does. That's far better than a WAG (wild ass guess). We know the sun and moon have definite effects on our environment and our personal lives. No mistake there. Indians use a panchang to delineate those effects. But how do planets millions of miles away have any effect what soever when their gravitation effect would be very negligible? Some say it isn't gravity but the effect of their light (again pretty minimal) or the more spiritual belief in the cosmic transcendental relationship between all things as if we and the entirety of creation are one big moving mass. We might want to look at the idea that ancients not having computers and precise devices definitely tracked things by counting moons and then probably noted recurring cycles with the position of the planets they noted in the sky. When Jupiter occupied a certain constellation in the sky they could count on certain things related to that cycle occurring. Jupiter completes its orbit about every 12 years. We know there are 12 year cycles in various fields including finance. Of course if you are an astronomer you're going to know that Jupiter will not exactly correspond to a 12 year orbit. But still the loose approximation was good enough and far better than a WAG. There's the rub. We have some astrologers, mainly westerner who have learned jyotish, that seem to believe it is so concrete that one moment you are in Venus dasha or subperiod and when the next you are in Sun dasha everything will instantly change. Not a chance. It *is* after all a "science of light" and the dashas crossfade like scenes from a movie. Likewise when these astrologer's predictions fail they will go running back to their computers and spend much time trying "rectify" the horoscope to fit their prediction. Perhaps if they took the horoscope like a weather report they would have been more successful. And the latter is what many Indian astrologers do.
