--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I feel that the "purity of the teaching" as I > have > > > understood it has already > > > > > been > > > > > > lost. There is very little there left preserving, and that > > > which is worthy of preserving > > > > can > > > > > > best be saved outside the context of the organization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So which branch of Christianity has done the best at > preserving > > > the oral tradition? > > > > > > > > @@@@@@@@ > > > > > > > > I am not discussing Christianity here, so I will not bother > > > responding to this question. > > > > > > You're complaining about oral traditions and their preservation > and > > > about the lousy job of this that the TMO has done. > > > > &&&&&&&& > > > > That interpretation is justified neither by what I wrote nor by > what I intended. > > > > First, I'm not discussing "oral traditions"; you have inserted that > topic into the string on > > your own accord. > > What do YOU mean by "purity of the teaching," if not the oral > tradition of teaching TM?
%%%%%%%% At the risk of being redundant, I will once again attempt to point out that the topic of "oral traditions" was introduced by you, not by me. I was not discussing "oral traditions", but rather the "purity of the teaching" in the TMO. These topics are not identical unless one defines them to be at the outset and proceeds on that basis. As I have said in other posts, in my opinion there is more involved in the purity of the teaching than the specific content, part of which by the way is strictly oral tradition, and part of which is not. %%%%%%%% > > > > > > > Second, I'm not complaining. I am analyzing, and the result of my > analysis is somewhat > > negative with regard to the content. That may seem like a > distinction without a difference > > to you, but for me it is significant. > > > > Seeing how I'm still stuck about the distinction you make between > the "purity of the tradition" and the "purity of the [oral] > tradition" of TM, I guess I'm REALLY missing your point. %%%%%%%% You are, and there's not much I can do to help if you are unwilling to read these posts more conscientiously. %%%%%%%% > > > > &&&&&&&&> > > > > > > > > @@@@@@@@ > > > > > > > > > > The TMO has been set up specifically to preserve its oral > > > tradition. That is NOT the case > > > > > for ANY major branch of the Christian religion, and it shows, > > > IMHO. > > > > > > > > > > Whether or not the TMO approach will work for any length of > time > > > remains to be seen. > > > > > What we CAN be sure of is that most, if not all, other > approaches > > > have not seemed to > > > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > Look at Benson's Relaxation Response, based on numerous > > > interviews with TMers. Look > > > > at > > > > > Chopra's own meditation technique, and how he presents it to > > > people. We can see the > > > > > results of the telephone effect immediately (within a > generation > > > of second-handness). > > > > > > > > > > Sri Sri Ravi Shankar's techniques, useful or not, aren't > deemed > > > central to his > > > > organization, > > > > > as far as I can tell, because his charitable works are the > only > > > pretty much the only thing > > > > > discussed here. > > > > > > > > @@@@@@@@ > > > > > > > > Your penchant for straw man arguments could take up a lot of > band > > > width at this rate. > > > > > > > > > Your inability to address my points takes up at least as much if > not > > > more. > > > > &&&&&&&& > > > > Ho hum. > > > > &&&&&&&& > > > > > > > > > > > @@@@@@@@ > > > > > > > > > > MMY has always been consistent in his representation of what > he > > > believes is important, > > > > > and I find it amusing that people criticize him for building > an > > > organization specifically > > > > > designed to preserve that which he deems most important. > > > > > > > > @@@@@@@@ > > > > > > > > Surely you jest! Maharishi has changed his game plan more times > > > than I can recall, as has > > > > been observed time and again in this forum. At the most obvious > > > level, what has become > > > > of the priority to have large numbers of ordinary people > > > meditating, or large numbers of > > > > Sidhas flying together, etc, etc.? > > > > > > And so? Its HIS game plan to change, and his teaching method to > > > change. "Purity of the teaching" is his to define, as well... > > > > &&&&&&&& > > > > Well, which is it then? Either he is consistent as you claim in > your previous post, or it > > doesn't matter because it's "HIS game plan to change". Get back to > me when you have > > decided. > > > > Or he has some idea of what changes are good to make to his own > teaching method and what changes are not good to make to his own > teaching method that those of us who aren't the original authors of > MMY's teaching method may not catch? > > Get back to me when you have a clue. %%%%%%%% Sorry, you are already so far down the slippery slope of pissing contests that I'm afraid I won't be able to find you. L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
