The reply function on the FFL website seems to have stopped working. Hugo I agree many crop circles are man made. There have been a couple of good documentaries of crop circles shown in FF in recent years. The "nodes" on the downed stems is noteworthy and appears to be heat induced.
I looked at the website www.circlemakers.org and the book it's promoting. Found this review of the book on Amazon below. Brian The Field Guide: The Art, History & Philosophy of Crop Circle Making (Paperback) As someone who has studied the real crop picture phenomenon for seven yesrs now, I had never heard of this "Field Guide" until recently, when some naive person espoused it as the ultimate guide to understanding modern crop circles! I was immediately suspicious of any such claim, especially because another website run by these same authors can sometimes be, to put it mildly, somewhat less than truthful. Their "Field Guide" (in my view) is more of the same. What they describe therein has only a passing resemblance to the real crop picture phenomenon, that many other serious researchers are still exploring, and is actively ongoing today in 2009. First of all, I do not believe that "Doug and Dave" made anywhere near the totality of early crop pictures from the late 1980's to early 1990's. There was never any evidence to support their claims, and those old gentlemen would have had no idea how to code so much symbolic astronomy into crops. Secondly, when these authors describe the detailed nature of many later crop pictures, they seem to have no idea what they are talking about. Only someone compeletely new to the subject would read their work past the front cover. Why not buy a book say by Lucy Pringle, Eltjo Haselhoff, Bert Janssen or Janet Ossebaard, if you want to learn something useful and true? Thirdly, many large, complex crop pictures from 2007 onward have been witnessed to occur (sometimes on film) in otherwise empty fields, and in a short period of time, where no human fakers could possibly have been present: for example East Field of July 7, 2007, or Silbury of July 5, 2009. Hence the basic hypothesis of this book has been shown through recent work to be deeply flawed. One strongly suspects that the authors of this book already know all of the objections mentioned above, since they are good writers of fiction, and generally intelligent people. The question then becomes: why would anyone write such a work of entertaining fiction about modern crop pictures, rather than something which is at least approximately true, subject to all of the widely different ideas that have been espoused to explain this phenomenon? Now there is an interesting question, to which we do not seem to have any clear answer at present. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <fintlewoodle...@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brian64705 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Rick, The wikipedia entry for crop circles is mostly skeptical and begins > > with the "Doug and Dave" story - 2 guys who claim to have made ALL of the > > crop circles in the 1970's. However since those days they have become very > > complex and noone that I am aware of has come forward to claim > > responsibility. Two of the most remarkable in my view was the digital > > response to the SETI broadcast to outer space by Carl Sagan. And the > > mysterious face of an ET in the crops shown in this rather poor video: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KoR2t-iM9k > > D&D never claimed to make *all* the crop circles in the 70s. > > If you want to know who makes them now check out: > > www.circlemakers.org > > Especially the New Documents section where they mention > being filmed making a highly complex crop pattern designed > by a mathematician that was filmed for a TV doc, very > interesting as I'd always thought they would be using > stuff like GPS or night vision goggles but no, it's all > done the traditional way with planks and string. > > Hmm, I feel like I've typed all that before.... > > The thing is Brian if people have been doing this for > ages you'd expect them to get better at it, I would > anyway. > > And did you ever wonder why aliens would come all this > way just to tread patterns in wheat fields? Bit weird > behaviour, though undeniably "alien." What do they do > with the rest of the year once the crops have been > harvested, go home? Or just wait around in southern > England for someone else to grow something they can > tread on? > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote: > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] > > > On Behalf Of brian64705 > > > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 1:41 PM > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle: Woolaston Grange, > > > Gloucestershire. > > > Reported 18th July. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc8uZgCccoA > > > > > > This video consists of 33 different crop circles that appeared in 2009. > > > Creating 33 different crop circles within a 6 month time period in > > > multiple > > > countries is humanly impossible and would take a massive amount of air, > > > ground and space coordination that could never be kept quiet from the > > > public. No one denies that there have been man made crop circles, but when > > > those circles are barely examined closely... they are all easily seen to > > > be > > > geometrically flawed and take days if not weeks to months to create... and > > > unlike a real crop circle, the crops are killed. > > > > > > Are "ordinary mortals" ever caught in the act of creating these? If people > > > were making them, it seems they would need lights and some sort of > > > machinery, and would leave tracks. Interesting use of terrestrial symbols > > > in > > > some of them, such as insects, jellyfish, yin yang, etc. If they are from > > > "out there", they're clearly familiar with what goes on "down here". > > > > > >
