--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > This is a very legitimate complaint about Advaitic > > > > > approaches that fail to explain how an initial > > > > > intellectual understanding that one is "already > > > > > enlightened" can be utilized to trigger > > > > realization. > > > > > If this understanding is held simply as another > > > > waking > > > > > state concept, then it will have no impact- just > > > > > another conceptual burden. However, if this > > > > > understanding is used as a springboard for > > > > authentic > > > > > inquiry, much can occur. > > > > > > > > Exactly. The misunderstanding comes from attempting > > > > to make a non-intellectual process into an > > > > intellectual > > > > exercise. > > > > > > Oui, d'accord. The conceptual understanding > > > facilitates the experiential discrimination of the > > > intellect. > > > > So let's have the explanation of how the > > intellectual understanding can be used as a > > springboard for authentic inquiry, please. > > P.S.: The explanation should probably be given > by someone for whom the authentic inquiry has > actually triggered realization.
**** I had a powerful awakening experience at age 16. At that time I didn't even know about the concepts of awakening or enlightenment. I had not practiced the kind of meditation, where your aim is to silence your mind. I had no awakened people around me. But I had been quite spontaneously drawn to intense inner dialogues. It went like this: An idea or proposition often of existential nature came to my mind. It activated an other voice that tried to challenge the proposition. I spent every week many hours withdrawn to this kind of meditation. At the moment of the awakening experience I was not immersed in an inner dialogue. I was just walking down stairs and thinking nothing special. Suddenly I just felt a thud in my head. My whole perception changed permanently and there has been no relapse to the old state. I felt deep inner stability and peace that could not be shattered by any emotional state. I think my inner dialogues had moulded the ground for this transition. Irmeli To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
