steve.sundur cool friend .... I only
asked if the techniques are true, because these techniques are across the network, available on the internet .. but where did they originate? someone put for fun .. or actually received from MMY? I do not doubt Vaj or anyone on this forum ... this is not the focus of the question, I come in peace okay? :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" <steve.sun...@...> wrote: > > Marcio, you seem rather pathetic. You got what you wanted, but you go on and > on with, "Are you sure it's true Vaj? Is it really true Vaj? You're not > putting me on,are you Vaj?" If you still have so much doubt, why not pay for > the techniques and find out. After all, he could be fooling you. Maybe they > got changed, or maybe updated. Stranger things have happened. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marcio" <tmer1306@> wrote: > > > > wow very good Vaj thank you so much ... :) :) :) :) > > > > these advanced techniques you think are true ? > > > > > > thank you again .. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jan 5, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Marcio wrote: > > > > > > > You know where I can find these advanced techniques? I do not want > > > > to pay dollars to learn > > > > > > > > > http://minet.org/ > > > > > > http://minet.org/mantras.html > > > > > > The TM and TM-Sidhi Techniques > > > > > > As reported in the TM-EX Newsletter, and from other sources. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Disclaimer - read this first. > > > > > > All information here is provided for historical and research purposes > > > only. Information and program details obtained from this website are > > > not to be used for the purpose of meditation. Website contents are > > > not furnished for the facilitation of, or use in, meditation, any > > > kind of mental practice or exercise, or for any other purpose > > > whatsoever. This website and its author do not and will not provide > > > meditation instruction by any means. > > > > > > Repetitious? Yes, because some people can't take a hint. > > > > > > Provided for historical and research purposes only. That means, these > > > mantras and other information about these programs are not here for > > > you to use for "meditation," or use them for any other purpose. > > > > > > In case it isn't already obvious to you, this website is that of a > > > critic who no longer practices TM, and who is, depending on the > > > weather, indifferent to TM, critical of TM, and openly laughing at > > > the silliness of the TM programs. (You wasted your money on this > > > crap? [Join the club.]) And, yeah, every so often I'm just a tiny, > > > tiny bit angry at the fact that a very few people have gained wealth > > > and power through the creation of this very elaborate, intricate, > > > complicated mountain of bullshit, through which many people have > > > wasted thousands of dollars and many hours if not lifetimes. But this > > > website is done, it's been sitting here mostly unchanged for almost > > > ten years, and frankly I now care very little about Transcendental > > > Meditation and the organizations that teach it, except as a cultural > > > and social phenomenon specific to a few decades of contemporary > > > American history. Nor do I care what you think of me or this website. > > > > > > The mantras and program details were provided to me by former TM > > > teachers in the distant past. They are placed here just to show that > > > all they are, are a few silly little syllables that are neither > > > unique to the meditator nor were they selected by some elaborate > > > secret method. > > > > > > Now, if for some reason the above is unclear to you, and you're > > > sitting there composing an e-mail to me about these mantras that > > > starts out "I read the disclaimer but," well, don't. Go here and read > > > some snippets of previous e-mails I've received, instead. > > > > > > > > > > > > The TM technique is simple mental repetition of a "mantra" or word. > > > The TM movement claims that only specific "words" can be used. They > > > claim that the selection of words is based upon a secret formula. > > > Court documents have shed some light on this "secret" process. It is > > > nothing other than a set of words given out by age, and/or age and > > > sex, depending on the teacher training course the TM teacher attended. > > > > > > The TM-Sidhi program is nothing other than a set of sutras (words or > > > phrases), mentally repeated every fifteen seconds after doing a > > > twenty minute session of TM. Each sutra is repeated twice, with a 15 > > > second pause in between each repetition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The TM Mantra Tables > > > > > > 1961 > > > 1969-Male > > > 1969-Female > > > Fiuggi, 1972 > > > Sex > > > Mantra > > > Age > > > Mantra > > > Age > > > Mantra > > > Age > > > Mantra > > > MALE > > > RAM > > > 0-15 > > > ING > > > 0-15 > > > IM > > > 10-11 > > > ING > > > FEMALE > > > SHIRIRAM > > > 15-30 > > > AING > > > 15-30 > > > AIM > > > 12-13 > > > IM > > > > > > 30-45 > > > SHRING > > > 30-45 > > > SHRIM > > > 14-15 > > > INGA > > > > > > 46 + > > > SHIAM > > > 46 + > > > SHIAMA > > > 16-17 > > > IMA > > > > > > 18-19 > > > AYING > > > > > > 20-21 > > > AYIM > > > > > > 22-23 > > > AYINGA > > > > > > 24-25 > > > AYIMA > > > > > > > 25 > > > SHIRING > > > 1976 > > > 1977 > > > 1978 > > > October,1978 > > > 1987 > > > Age > > > Mantra > > > Age > > > Mantra > > > Age > > > Mantra > > > Age > > > Mantra > > > Age > > > Mantra > > > 03-10 > > > ENG > > > 03-10 > > > ING > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0-11 > > > ENG > > > 10-12 > > > EM > > > 10-12 > > > IN > > > 10-12 > > > ENG > > > 10-12 > > > ENG > > > > > > > > > 12-14 > > > ENGA > > > 12-14 > > > INGA > > > 12-14 > > > EM > > > 12-14 > > > EM > > > 12-13 > > > EM > > > 14-16 > > > EMA > > > 14-16 > > > INA > > > 14-16 > > > EMGA > > > 14-16 > > > ENGA > > > 14-15 > > > ENGA > > > 16-18 > > > AENG > > > 16-18 > > > AING > > > 16-18 > > > EMA > > > 16-18 > > > EMA > > > 16-17 > > > EMA > > > 18-20 > > > AEM > > > 18-20 > > > AIM > > > 18-20 > > > AENG > > > 18-20 > > > AING > > > 18-19 > > > AING > > > 20-22 > > > AENGA > > > 20-22 > > > AINGA > > > 20-22 > > > AEM > > > 20-22 > > > AIM > > > 20-21 > > > AIM > > > 22-24 > > > AEMA > > > 22-24 > > > AIMA > > > 22-24 > > > AENGA > > > 22-24 > > > AINGA > > > 22-23 > > > AINGA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-26 > > > AEMA > > > 24-26 > > > AIMA > > > 24-25 > > > AIMA > > > 24-30 > > > SHIRING > > > 24-30 > > > SHIRING > > > 26-30 > > > SHIRING > > > 26-30 > > > SHIRING > > > 26-29 > > > SHIRING > > > 30-35 > > > SHIRIM > > > 30-35 > > > SHIRIN > > > 30-35 > > > SHIRIM > > > 30-35 > > > SHIRIM > > > 30-34 > > > SHIRIM > > > 35-40 > > > HIRING > > > 35-40 > > > HIRING > > > 35-40 > > > HIRING > > > 35-40 > > > HIRING > > > 35-39 > > > HIRING > > > 40-45 > > > HIRIM > > > 40-45 > > > HIRIN > > > 40-45 > > > HIRIM > > > 40-45 > > > HIRIM > > > 40-44 > > > HIRIM > > > 45-50 > > > KIRING > > > 45-50 > > > KIRING > > > 45-50 > > > KIRING > > > 45-50 > > > KIRING > > > 45-49 > > > KIRING > > > 50-55 > > > KIRIM > > > 50-55 > > > KIRIN > > > 50-55 > > > KIRIM > > > 50-55 > > > KIRIM > > > 50-54 > > > KIRIM > > > 55-60 > > > SHIAM > > > 55-60 > > > SHIAM > > > 55-60 > > > SHYAM > > > 55-60 > > > SHIAM > > > 55-59 > > > SHAM > > > 60 + > > > SHIAMA > > > 60 + > > > SHIAMA > > > 60 + > > > SHYAMA > > > 60 + > > > SHIAMA > > > 60 + > > > SHAMA > > > Notes: The year at the top of each column indicates the year the > > > teacher was trained. > > > "Age" is that of the initiate at the time of learning the technique. > > > > > > See the TM Checking Notes and Steps to Initiation for details on the > > > initiation and checking rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Advanced Techniques > > > > > > First: > > > AING NAMAH > > > Second: > > > SHRI AING NAMAH > > > Third: > > > SHRI AING NAMAH NAMAH > > > Fourth: > > > SHRI SHRI AING NAMAH NAMAH > > > Fifth: > > > SHRI SHRI AING AING NAMAH NAMAH > > > Sixth: > > > SHRI SHRI AING AING NAMAH NAMAH > > > (Thought in the heart area) > > > Seventh: > > > Age of Enlightenment Technique: > > > A system of putting attention on parts of the body, environment, > > > world and outer space. > > > Notes: In most cases students were instructed to use their own, > > > previously assigned mantra where AING appears above. > > > > > > > > > > > > Translation of Advanced Technique Mantras > > > > > > SHRI > > > "Oh most beautiful" > > > AING > > > "Hindu goddess Saraswati" > > > NAMAH > > > "I bow down" > > > > > > > > > Ayurveda Techniques > > > > > > Primordial Sound - "AMRITA," used as a mantra > > > > > > Psychophysiological Technique - Mantra is thought in heart area. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TM-Sidhi Techniques > > > > > > The names of the sutras used in the TM-Sidhi program are: > > > > > > Friendliness > > > Compassion > > > Happiness > > > Strength of an elephant > > > Bronchial tube > > > Inner light > > > Sun > > > Moon > > > Polestar > > > Trachea > > > Navel > > > Distinction between intellect and transcendence > > > Transcendence intuition > > > Transcendence finest hearing > > > Transcendence finest sight > > > Transcendence finest taste > > > Transcendence finest touch > > > Transcendence finest smell. > > > > > > The "levitation" or "flying" technique, now known as "Yogic Flying," > > > is used in the same way as all other sutras: > > > > > > "Relationship of body and akasha - lightness of cotton fiber." > > > > > > This phrase is mentally repeated every fifteen seconds after doing a > > > twenty minute session of TM. Each sutra is mentally repeated twice > > > (if time allows 4 times), with a 15 second pause in between each > > > repetition. > > > > > > After doing the flying sutra for 5-30 minutes, the instruction is to > > > rest for 10-30 minutes and then read the Hindu Scriptures for 5 minutes. > > > > > > An example of the readings (from the Ninth Mandala of Rig Veda): > > > > > > Flow Soma, in a most sweet and exhilarating stream, effused for Indra > > > to drink. The all-beholding destroyer of Rakshasas has stepped upon > > > his gold-smitten birthplace, united with the wooden cask. Be the > > > lavish giver of wealth, most bounteous, the destroyer of enemies; > > > bestow on us the riches of the affluent. Come with food to the > > > sacrifice of the mighty gods, and bring us strength and sustenance. > > > To thee we come, O dropping (Soma); for thee only is this our worship > > > day by day, our prayers are to thee, none other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Disclaimer > > > > > > Provided for historical and research purposes only. Go back up to the > > > top of the page and read the full disclaimer, particularly if you're > > > sitting there composing an e-mail to me about these mantras that > > > starts out "I read the disclaimer but." Don't; go read it again instead. > > > > > > > > > > > > Notice: This website is primarily a static archive for old "TM-EX" > > > newsletters and other historical material, and is irregularly updated > > > if at all. See the Links section for other websites and sources of > > > current news and information. E-mail or snail-mail sent to the > > > archive maintainer regarding anything here will likely be ignored. > > > > > > Archive Maintainer: Mike Doughney > > > Back to MINet Home Page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can also find the entire Age of Enlightenment technique (rather > > > than the watered down "citizen sidha" version here: > > > > > > http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2007/01/reader-submission-full-age-of.html > > > > > > > > > > > > We received the following in today's email from a reader who wishes > > > to remain anonymous. The Age of Enlightenment techniques were taught > > > on the fabled 6-month course in the mid-1970s. The cost of the course > > > would be approximately $25,000 in today's dollars. Enjoy the "fruits" > > > below -- for free! > > > > > > To: jmknapp53@ > > > > > > [F]rom my personal, handwritten notes. Enjoy! > > > > > > Keep up the great work. > > > > > > > > > Full Age of Enlightenment Technique > > > After T[ranscendental]M[editation]S[idhi]P[rogram]: > > > > > > Place attention on the following in sequence: > > > Nostrils > > > Lips > > > Ears > > > Eyes > > > Between Brows > > > Top of head > > > Whole head > > > Throat > > > Chest > > > Stomach > > > Sides of the body > > > Back > > > Upper back > > > Shoulder blades > > > Upper arms > > > Lower arms > > > Palms > > > Fingers > > > Upper legs > > > Ankles > > > Feet > > > Whole body > > > > > > Then have sequential and growing awareness of the following spaces, > > > along with the mantras which follow: > > > City you are in > > > Country you are in > > > Continent (North/SouthAmerica) > > > Africa > > > Europe > > > Austral-Asia > > > Whole world > > > Earth and the Sun together > > > The Solar System > > > The Galaxy > > > Clusters of Galaxies > > > Whole Universe > > > The Absolute > > > The Whole Body > > > > > > Lokas (done simultaneously with the above): > > > Om Bhu (mentally utter at level of clouds) > > > Om Bhu Va (higher and higher) > > > Om Sva > > > Om Maha > > > Om Jana > > > Om Tapa > > > Om Sat Yam (pron: Om Sut Yum) > > > > > > When you utter "Sat Yam" place attention on the top of your head. > > > > > > Have an awareness of the Whole Body. > > > > > > Sutra: Soma, soma, soma. > > > > > > Rest 5-10 minutes. > > > > > >
