--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@...> wrote: > > I tried googling the first paragraph and didn't get anything, but what I did > find interesting was the spelling of "parousia" referred to as The Second > Coming Of Christ, and "Purusha", The Cosmic Being. lol >
Yep, Parousia. The excerpt is from an introduction examining a case of spirituality as something experiential. So from example it is being used in the sense of the experiential Presence as opposed to some things learned intellectually or having as a belief or faith. So yes, running towards the Greek root as opposed to a more narrow christian doctrine usage. The excerpt is taking the distinction. I think it is pretty cool. A knowing. That's my experience. -Buck > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > <snip> > > > Here is something written about this kind of thing in the > > > 18th Century. Nothing new under the sun I guess: > > > > This is pretty impressive. Where exactly does it come > > from? Who were these people? What subsequently happened > > to this woman and her group? > > > > > > > > > <edit> > > > "Ann was the first individual to experience the parousia and so they > > > recognized her to be the unique person to inaugurate the awareness of the > > > parousia. It was not "seeing" in the external sense at all but rather a > > > transforming consciousness of unitive presence. The phrase "she saw in > > > open vision" is often used, open vision is a knowing not by mind or a > > > seeing not by the eyes but by a perception at depth from with in; if > > > reflects the "knowing which is beyond knowledge". The "vision" is "open" > > > in the sense that one who now really sees has been opened within. > > > > > > In meeting as she began to speak of her experience, all those at the > > > meeting began to experience themselves. They did not merely accept Ann's > > > word for what she had experienced. Rather, as she spoke of her > > > experience, those who listened experienced the same reality for > > > themselves. > > > > > > Ann inaugurated the consciousness of parousia as the first one among many > > > to be drawn into the unifying experience of alive and fully present > > > in-through-with us all. She is the first to awaken in experience to what > > > ultimately all experience. In experiential history she ministers this > > > experience to them by bearing witness to what had happened to her, > > > thereby being the instrument of that same happening to them. > > > > > > Ann ministered life to them by the living witness of her experience; they > > > now experience for themselves and so in turn enter an ever-expanding > > > ministry of living witness to others. This begins the essential process > > > of revelation spoken of as progressive unfoldment." > > > > > > <> > > > > > > > > > > Yes. This is the same thing that SSRS says when people have > > > > transcendent experiences around him. He says that that experience > > > > occurs in your consciousness and is you. But this does not discount > > > > that the guru/teacher/lama, etc., could function as a catalyst to > > > > trigger said experience in you. Without the catalyst, no experience. In > > > > the same fashion you could listen to a piece of music and have a > > > > beautiful experience. The beauty is in the context of your > > > > consciousness as the music serves as a catalyst to trigger the > > > > experience of beauty. Without the music "outside" of your > > > > consciousness, no "inner" beauty. > > > > > > > > I can understand this Zen teacher ripping new "assholes" if they only > > > > saw the "beauty" in/as her. > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/8/11, turquoiseb <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: turquoiseb <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another view of darshan > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 10:45 AM > > > > > My favorite rap about darshan, what > > > > > causes it, and what > > > > > it really is came from a very down-to-earth Zen teacher > > > > > in Santa Fe who had a tendency to carve any of her > > > > > students who ever dared to use the word with regard > > > > > to her a new asshole. > > > > > > > > > > She characterized what people *perceive* as darshan as > > > > > "Dumbo's feather." If you remember back to the Disney > > > > > movie, Dumbo believed he could fly because he had been > > > > > given a magical feather. Only thing was, it wasn't > > > > > magical. It was just a normal feather. But as long > > > > > as he believed it was magical, it got him high (in > > > > > his fictional case, literally). > > > > > > > > > > Same, according to this teacher, with "darshan." People > > > > > go see some teacher they have already consciously or > > > > > unconsciously placed up on a pedestal as being "higher" > > > > > than they are. or "more evolved" than they are, or "more > > > > > enlightened" than they are, or whatever, and they get > > > > > high. They experience some shift of awareness, and they > > > > > attribute that shift to the teacher. But the teacher > > > > > never did diddleysquat. The teacher's "energy" or > > > > > "shakti" never did diddleysquat. > > > > > > > > > > The student creates it all, but but because they can't > > > > > accept that they were *already* in that "higher," shifted > > > > > state of awareness but just weren't willing to admit it, > > > > > they give all the credit for it to the teacher, their > > > > > version of Dumbo's feather. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > > > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > Or go to: > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
