I have no idea why you're so fixated on me, but all I did was point out that Eastern Spirituality very often has a focus on creating a different future at the expense of being here now. It was not the broad brush condemnation of Eastern Spirituality that you seem to think it was.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" <raviyogi@...> wrote: > > > This is exactly where Sir J. Alexander Stanley went wrong in the other thread > when he condemned Eastern Spirituality. He got confused with the paths of > Yoga and tantra. Some don't have basics and feel qualified to somehow open > their big mouths in condemning others. They think they have found a new toy > and get all excited like a bunch of babies..LOL. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" <raviyogi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > There is nothing negative if you understand what the path of yoga is about. > > The 2 main paths in spirituality are yoga and tantra. > > > > Yoga is masculine, tantra is feminine, yoga is rajasic tantra tamasic. > > > > Yoga is about will, action, the path of the warrior. There is a peak(self > > realization) to climb, theres lot of discipline required, there are methods > > and techniques to scale the mountain. There are lot of sacrifices to be > > made. But Tantra is just accepting that everything is divine and letting > > the divine flow into you. > > > > Yoga is suppression with awareness and tantra is indulgence with awareness. > > There are strengths and weaknesses to both. For example Yoga can make you > > egostic and life abnegating whereas tantra could make you just a lazy > > indulgent. > > > > Once this basic principle is understood it is easy to then dive into the > > Yoga Sutras which is the essence of the path if the Yoga. If you believe in > > tantra don't even bother. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Why has PataƱjali included some "negative" > > > suutras in YS? Like II 15: > > > > > > Blaah blaah blaah... duHkham eva sarvaM vivekinaH. > > > > > > (Blaah...[to preserve the original word order:] suffering verily [is] > > > everything/all for a vivekin.) > > > > > > ...and II 40: > > > > > > shaucaat svaan.ga-jugupsaa parair asaMsargaH. > > > > > > (Dr. Taimni: From physical purity (arises) disgust for > > > one's own body and disinclination to come in physical > > > cntact with others.) > > > > > > IMO, the only explanation seems to be that when > > > a wanna-be yogii(yoginii) starts to encounter > > > that "stuff", he(she) might think there's something > > > wrong with what he(she) is doing, if PataƱjali hadn't > > > specifically mentioned that can/shall happen! :o > > > > > >