I have no idea why you're so fixated on me, but all I did was point out that 
Eastern Spirituality very often has a focus on creating a different future at 
the expense of being here now. It was not the broad brush condemnation of 
Eastern Spirituality that you seem to think it was. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" <raviyogi@...> wrote:
>
> 
> This is exactly where Sir J. Alexander Stanley went wrong in the other thread 
> when he condemned Eastern Spirituality. He got confused with the paths of 
> Yoga and tantra. Some don't have basics and feel qualified to somehow open 
> their big mouths in condemning others. They think they have found a new toy 
> and get all excited like a bunch of babies..LOL.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" <raviyogi@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > There is nothing negative if you understand what the path of yoga is about. 
> > The 2 main paths in spirituality are yoga and tantra. 
> > 
> > Yoga is masculine, tantra is feminine, yoga is rajasic tantra tamasic.
> > 
> > Yoga is about will, action, the path of the warrior. There is a peak(self 
> > realization) to climb, theres lot of discipline required, there are methods 
> > and techniques to scale the mountain. There are lot of sacrifices to be 
> > made. But Tantra is just accepting that everything is divine and letting 
> > the divine flow into you.
> > 
> > Yoga is suppression with awareness and tantra is indulgence with awareness. 
> > There are strengths and weaknesses to both. For example Yoga can make you 
> > egostic and life abnegating whereas tantra could make you just a lazy 
> > indulgent. 
> > 
> > Once this basic principle is understood it is easy to then dive into the 
> > Yoga Sutras which is the essence of the path if the Yoga. If you believe in 
> > tantra don't even bother.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Why has PataƱjali included some "negative"
> > > suutras in YS? Like II 15:
> > > 
> > > Blaah blaah blaah... duHkham eva sarvaM vivekinaH.
> > > 
> > > (Blaah...[to preserve the original word order:] suffering verily [is] 
> > > everything/all for a vivekin.)
> > > 
> > > ...and II 40: 
> > > 
> > > shaucaat svaan.ga-jugupsaa parair asaMsargaH.
> > > 
> > > (Dr. Taimni: From physical purity (arises) disgust for
> > > one's own body and disinclination to come in physical
> > > cntact with others.)
> > > 
> > > IMO, the only explanation seems to be that when
> > > a wanna-be yogii(yoginii) starts to encounter
> > > that "stuff", he(she) might think there's something
> > > wrong with what he(she) is doing, if PataƱjali hadn't
> > > specifically mentioned that can/shall happen! :o
> > >
> >
>


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