--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: <snip> > The "TM Birthers" who say that Vaj never learned TM > base this on their claim that he doesn't use the "proper" > language to describe TM. Only one way of expressing the > mechanics of meditation is Right, Damnit.
Nope, wrong. Let's put this attempt to confuse the issue to rest. First, the issue isn't so much whether Vaj ever learned TM as it is whether he was ever a TM teacher, as he claims to have been. It isn't that unusual for a TMer who hasn't taken TTC or checker training to get the mechanics of TM wrong. Second, we aren't talking about "the mechanics of meditation," we're talking about *the mechanics of TM*. Third, *some* variations in the language used to express the mechanics of TM won't make much if any difference in the practice. Others will, and these are the kinds of variations we're talking about. It would be absurd to insist that choice of language never makes any difference. You have to look at variations in language on a case-by- case basis to decide which matter and which don't. Barry is invited to make the case that Vaj's assertion "Of course mindfulness of mantra or 'waiting for the mantra' is a natural and important part of TM" has no significant implications for the practice of TM. IOW, if a person sat and "waited for the mantra" instead of introducing it as soon as they realized they weren't thinking the mantra, would they still be practicing TM? Does "waiting for the mantra" accurately describe the mechanics of TM? When Barry was teaching TM, would he have used this phrase to express the mechanics of TM to new meditators? We'll wait... Actually, if we do wait, we'll be waiting forever, because Barry ain't gonna touch this with a 10-foot pole. But dollars to donuts, he'll continue to promote the canard he started with in his attempt to discredit those who doubt Vaj's TM-teacher credentials, including the person Barry has said is "the most rational and restrained person on the forum": "Because you repeatedly indicate that you really don't know how TM actually works I very much suspect that you're an outright fraud."--the do.rk to Vaj
