--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" <yifuxero@> wrote:
> >
> > ...I'm on the free will side, but don't see how the question 
> > can be resolved logically. 
> 
> IMO only those indulging in confirmation bias believe
> that ANY philosophical question can be "resolved." :-)

Besides, attempts to "prove" that there is or is not
such a thing as free will strike me as the kind of
thing a catechist would do -- declare that only one
answer can be correct or true, and for everyone. I 
am less limited, and can see that it might be an
individual thang, with some having free will and
others not having it.

To provide a completely theoretical example of how
this could work, say there was a deranged bag lady
who had taken offense at some perceived minor slight
years ago, and had as a result cyberstalked the person
she believed slighted her for, say, seventeen years,
spending during most of that time 25% to 50% of her
weekly posting allotment trying to "get" him. I think
we would agree that such a person has no free will,
because no one who indulged in such embarrassing 
behavior and had the free will to change it would
fail to *not* change it. Continuing the embarrassing 
behavior for that long can legitimately be seen as a 
kind of proof that *for that particular cyberstalker* 
there is no free will.

On the other hand, if the stalkee refused to play the
game and ignored the cyberstalker as if her and her
attempts to "get" him affected his life about as much 
as finding one's path blocked by a puddle of flea piss 
would, and focused on his life, well that individual 
obviously has free will.

So it seems to me that the question of free will is 
an individual thang, a lot like the question of having
charisma or creativity or intelligence. Some of us got 
it, others don't. 

:-)


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