--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > > > On Jun 21, 2011, at 1:58 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > I've already posted a list of published research on Pure > > Consciousness during TM and on the physiological/psychological > > profiles of people who report pure consciousness 24/7 for years/ > > decades at a time. > > > Alleged "pure consciousness".
Well, Pure Consciousness, as defined by the TM researchers using guidelines provided by MMY, yes... > > The experience of samadhi in Patanjali yogis, as reflected in EEG, is > radically different from the relaxation response well known to occur > in TMers. Labeling it "pure consciousness" and then associating it > with a certain parameter is merely drawing bulls-eyes around the arrow. > A state of no-thought, no-mantra, no nuttin' during TM practice where the practitioner spontaneously shows marked reduction or even apparent suspension of breathing, and where teh physiological measures show similarities to waking, dreaming and sleeping, simultaneously, isn't turya (the fourth), the pure consciousness that underlies the usual relative states? A state where the EEG pattern found during TM's version of Pure Consciousness is also found during normal waking, isn't a sign of maturing Turiyatita (quality of turya)? OK, sure. > All it proves is you know how to draw bull's-eyes. > If you hit the same bullseye every time you throw, it shows a certain consistency of technique. Lawson
