Enjoyed your blast from the past Curtis - I can totally see the judgment on the 
dark spirit who was banished from the scene by Maharishi's effulgence, now in 
retrospect realizing the poor guy probably just had to pee - too many mango 
smoothies that morning....and the chosen Governors remained... 

I was not part of the reinforced indoctrination that the Governors received, 
but definitely bought into the absolute perfection of our dear leader. Though I 
recall at the time I also took seriously the Jai Guru Dev thing, respect the 
teacher, so I really didn't feel Maharishi was my personal guru, rather a 
perfect teacher (for awhile). 

The difference being I never had nor wanted a personal relationship with him, 
beyond the big Maharishi posters on my dorm walls (I did work for the MMY 
Press, but it was still a pretty groupie thing to  do...). I never had a chance 
to meet him. So I hung on his every word and worked for the Movement for two 
and a half years. Then when it became time to take a closer look and consider 
becoming a teacher myself, I decided to leave instead. Just wasn't going to 
work out.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> >
> > Whoa, very nice waking state critique Turq.
> > Nice writing.  -Buck
> 
> I wonder why you would refer to the obvious fact that he had to be awake when 
> her wrote it?  I mean do you post in your sleep Doug?  Ohhhhh wait a second, 
> you are comparing Barry's post to a higher state of consciousness one that 
> you are somehow capable of discerning by the content.  Let me give a shot at 
> the higher state one:
> 
> Maharishi was preceded into the hall by a golden glow, egglike in its 
> hyranyagarba glory.  As he sat down this glow enveloped the audience and I 
> could see that patches of dark clouds over people were going away.  One very 
> dark shrouded person left the room as if the purity itself had expelled him.
> 
> As he started to speak it was like the impulses of the Veda were unfolding 
> within me, the Prachetina value of life, the first impulses of creative 
> intelligence were enlivened.  On either side of the stage two huge Devatas 
> stood regally enraptured by the master but knowing that they would need a 
> nervous system like ours to achieve their goal.  My eyes fall on the nervous 
> system of a co-ed a few rows ahead, wearing a loose fitting, sleeveless, 
> white, cotton shirt. At this angle I can make out the curve of her breast and 
> think if I lean farther ahead I may be in nip-slip range...
> 
> But spontaneously my attention is drawn away from the rajasic and back to 
> Maharishi who is laying out the steps of progress for any government to turn 
> the world into Narnia if they would only pay enough for his programs to be 
> taught everywhere, cuz as everyone knows, the divine is always a bit short on 
> cash. (Not much of a saver.)  As he speaks he leans forward and at this angle 
> I can see into his hairy chest and if I lean forward...damn...pull back pull 
> back abort abort...Nice to be enlightened though so I can see my pervieness 
> in terms of the Self, as if the universe itself want's a little nip-slip now 
> and then and I am a faithful divine servant...
> 
> 
> Nice piece BTW Barry, you know for WAKING STATE!  (For any new readers, 
> "waking state" is a substitute for "S--t for brains" on FFL.  It is used as a 
> reminder of the poster's intrinsic superiority.)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Today for some reason I found myself thinking back to
> > > the first time I saw Maharishi, in 1967. At that talk,
> > > at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles, he said a few 
> > > things that got me interested enough in the spiritual 
> > > path that I set about walking it. 
> > > 
> > > He laid out the benefits of meditation as he saw it,
> > > that it offered a way to draw upon one's own inner
> > > resources for one's sense of self worth and happiness, 
> > > and not be dependent on others and how they see us or
> > > what they tell us to do for those things. I remember 
> > > him speaking about how meditation (as he saw it) 
> > > required no belief for it to work, and no leaders or 
> > > gurus for it to work. All that it did require was 
> > > actually doing the work -- practicing meditation. And 
> > > I remember him speaking about how meditation could 
> > > help to develop one's own creativity, and how that
> > > could help to resolve the problems of life by being
> > > able to create more effective solutions to them.
> > > 
> > > At one point a person stood up and asked a question.
> > > He talked about a particular problem he was having,
> > > and how it had left him in a quandary, not knowing
> > > what to do. He then asked Maharishi what to do. 
> > > 
> > > Maharishi's answer was the most impressive thing he'd
> > > said in the entire talk. He said, "If I tell you what
> > > to do, all that will happen is that it will make you
> > > weaker. The next time you have a problem, you'll want
> > > me to tell you what to do about it again. You will 
> > > become dependent on me. What you should do instead is 
> > > meditate, draw upon your own creativity, and solve 
> > > the problem yourself. That will make you stronger."
> > > 
> > > Compare and contrast to what Maharishi allowed his
> > > teaching and his spiritual movement to devolve into.
> > > What I find myself thinking today, remembering this
> > > first talk, is how SAD it is how little of what he 
> > > said that day turned out to be true. Or at least how 
> > > little of it turned out to be what he actually taught 
> > > and how he conducted himself as the years went on.
> > > 
> > > Instead of the independence and self-sufficiency he
> > > touted in that first talk, what happened -- and 
> > > within a couple of years -- was an environment in
> > > which the students were taught to rely on him and
> > > what he told them to do. Being on the whole young
> > > and impressionable people in the 60's they may in
> > > fact have brought a lot of this tendency to rely 
> > > on guru figures with them, but he allowed them to 
> > > do so, and in fact encouraged it. 
> > > 
> > > He also encouraged "magical thinking," the view that
> > > all you had to do was meditate and that if you did,
> > > and listened to what he told you to do, magical 
> > > forces that were larger than you would take care of
> > > you and make everything turn out right. "Do less and
> > > accomplish more," which in those early talks clearly
> > > meant "Meditate and recharge your energy and your
> > > creativity and then go out and USE it by working more
> > > efficiently for the things you want" turned into "Just 
> > > meditate and everything will be taken care of." Prag-
> > > matic thinking gave way to magical thinking. 
> > > 
> > > And look what the outcome of this reliance on magical
> > > thinking has produced. People who can no longer imagine
> > > solutions to the problems of hunger and war and violence
> > > that come from humans using their own intelligence and
> > > working towards pragmatic solutions. Instead, the only
> > > source that they can imagine a solution to these prob-
> > > lems coming from is magic, in the form of some Woo Woo
> > > Rays emanating from the thuds of their butts on foam,
> > > or from other, even more magical Woo Woo Rays emanating
> > > from some teacher or guru or avatar. 
> > > 
> > > Call me crazy but I miss the message of that first
> > > Maharishi talk. I am hopeful that the problems of this
> > > planet, both individual and worldwide, can in fact be
> > > resolved. But I don't believe that they can only be
> > > resolved by some magical force outside ourselves, or
> > > by Woo Woo Rays. I think that these problems can only
> > > be resolved by the pragmatic, creative ideas of indi-
> > > vidual human beings, creative ideas that are possibly
> > > enhanced by meditation and other practices, but *our*
> > > ideas, not those of some avatar or guru or spiritual
> > > teacher or other source of magical Woo Woo.
> > > 
> > > That, after all, was the message of the first talk I
> > > ever heard Maharishi give. It's just too bad that he
> > > either was lying about what he said, or didn't believe 
> > > it thoroughly enough to follow through on it in his
> > > own teachings, and with his own students. If he had, 
> > > the world might have been a much better place, and
> > > they would certainly have been much stronger human 
> > > beings. Instead, just as he said in that first talk, 
> > > he wound up making them weaker.
> > >
> >
>


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