--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@...> wrote:
>
> "It's all fun and games until someone loses an I!" FFL Motto!!


That was excellent Jim.



> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain <no_reply@> wrote:
> > <snip> 
> > > As I read in an adjacent post, there tends to be a (what I term) neo-non 
> > > dual,  neo-spiritualism that  is a dismissiveness of seeing( and doing) 
> > > things that that ought to be done, could be done, inviting opportunities 
> > > to enable or support some macro expansion of happiness, understanding, 
> > > love, appreciation, environmental balance, nutritional betterment, or 
> > > educational achievement. These are viewed, it appears as  being spiritual 
> > > thorns, being "highly bothered" with what is –
> >  which is perfect, so if you are bothered with what is perfect one is a 
> > spiritual misfit and slacker.  I don't relate.
> > 
> > RG: Hey, TB; good to hear from you as always. Yes, I guess I missed the 
> > adjacent post you read, but I have noticed in general that a dualistic 
> > intellect -- well, there's a redundancy for you, but I mean an intellect 
> > which has not become fully transparent to and surrendered into Us, or an 
> > intellect as discriminator into which we have quasi-permanently subjected 
> > ourself and lost ourself (i.e., the "whore" of which Ravi speaks so 
> > beautifully), and with which we fully identify as an I-point or as an 
> > essentially separate witness, a creature who is entirely subject to 
> > hierarchy, comparison of self-vs.-other(s), states of consciousness, and 
> > spacetime -- again, a dualistic intellect will interpret "everything is 
> > perfect" as advocating a static perfection, whereas the perfection of what 
> > IS certainly includes one's desires, as they also ARE. 
> > 
> > As Judy has mentioned here in the past, when someone asked MMY (I 
> > paraphrase), "If everything is perfect, why are we working so hard to 
> > change it," he is said to have replied, "That too is perfect."
> > 
> > MMY was the first to show me that desires were good, and for that I will 
> > probably be grateful to him always. I had to re-discover their divinity for 
> > myself as the crystalline perfection of what IS re-awoke to itself and 
> > noticed that it contained need-points as collapsed singularities of the 
> > Whole (which actually created the crystalline lattice amongst themselves) 
> > ... 
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> > > TB: Perhaps as "less is outside of me" blossoming to "nothing is outside 
> > > of me" there is less distinction of outer and inner riches and micro vs 
> > > macro initiatives. 
> > 
> > RG: Definitely no real distinction between inner and outer or micro and 
> > macro here, as everything we perceive or know is all quite self-evidently 
> > constructed of our awareness or being, but a very distinct hierarchy of 
> > need nonetheless; the body has its own wisdom in presenting our needs to us 
> > in their perfect order, and we always pay attention to the "loudest" first; 
> > time sorts itself out perfectly that way :-)
> > 
> > TB: It's all satisfying. It's all motivating.  It's all compelling. It's 
> > all good. It's all intriguing. It's all fun.
> > 
> > RG: Satisfying, motivating, compelling, good and intriguing, yes! And yes, 
> > fun, except when it isn't! Ha. That is, yes, of course, it is all a play of 
> > love, light, and laughter, or cardinal-fixed-mutable, or mass-light-energy, 
> > but we still fool ourselves constantly, as we continually encounter 
> > "not-self" and assimilate it into "self". We are constantly bringing our 
> > particles, our children, to Us through their various states of 
> > consciousness, and we begin each dance by identifying with them, in 
> > ignorance together with them. "No one shall see the face of God and live," 
> > and so some fear us and strive to avoid the void and maintain a separate 
> > existence in addiction and distraction, thinking "It's all fun and games 
> > until someone loses an I!" And that's perfectly OK too.
> > 
> > As we re-immerse ourselves into ignorance through a need-point and then 
> > re-member Us again and again, it IS generally fun, but occasionally not so 
> > much, when we encounter a piece a little too big to swallow without some 
> > diligent chewing :-)
> >
>


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