"Amma has said many times that we all have complete freedom in our spiritual 
lives.  If you have been using a particular meditation technique, and you have 
obtained good results from it, you are welcome to continue with your 
technique."  -Karunamayi


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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
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> > Mindfulness, as I mentioned in an earlier cafe rap, involves the use of
> > a bit of the forbidden E-word, effort. If you find yourself stuck in an
> > unattractive mindset or a bringdown set of afflictive emotions, you've
> > IMO often got to expend a little effort to get yourself back on track.
> > 
> > Some don't think much of the idea of mindfulness. To them, pretty much
> > all raised on the TM dogma, the whole idea is kinda Off The Program,
> > because they think (never actually having tried it, of course) that
> > mindfulness is not "natural." The idea presented to all of us as
> > students of Maharishi was that lowering oneself to monitoring one's
> > thoughts, emotions and actions should never be necessary. According to
> > the theory, you just get yourself enlightened, and then all of your
> > thoughts, emmotions and actions are *automatically* in tune with the
> > laws of nature. They are all at that point -- by definition -- right
> > thought, right emotion, and right action; there is no need to
> > self-monitor, because everything is automatically perfect. Many folks
> > believe in this theory so strongly that they choose to live according to
> > this "never self-monitor" creed long before they realize enlightenment.
> > :-)
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> ** I remember during my TM days the "thou shall expend no effort" instruction 
> too, and the story told about "lowering oneself to monitoring one's thoughts, 
> emotions and actions should never be necessary". 
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> The TM show is actually a different kind of instruction than mindfulness, 
> more in keeping with the way TM works, and MMY taught. With his way, 
> everything is about pulling back on the arrow, and capturing the fort to own 
> the territory, and highest first. 
> 
> Mindfulness, as fair as I can tell, leads to realization through a dawning 
> that the forest is larger than the trees, that each external experience we 
> have is every bit as much a mantra, a vehicle for transcendence, as the 
> internal experience of meditation. Perhaps a more stable way to grow 
> spiritually because the focus is on internal realization of external 
> phenomena; there is always a checking mechanism in place, the external world.
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> On the other hand, the "effortless" path of TM's rest and activity is more 
> like slowly walking your way over the years to the top of a very high cliff, 
> with the only option left at the top is learning to fly.
> 
> Both techniques get to the same place. Just a matter of preference I guess.
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> <snip>
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