Of course weapons matter. Like it or not, technology and its spin-off in weaponry very much determines who lives well, who lives poorly and who dies in today's world, as it has for thousands of years.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --It seems that weapons do matter; > Why is it that Iran and North Korea are pursuing nukes? > And the U.S. cannot let that happen? > > > - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Your claim is easy to make, and there is a very ancient tradition > > surrounding this process. Just show up with much more lethal > > weaponery than the current inhabitants have, and the land is all > > yours. > > > > Didn't you know that God traditionally grants people land in > > this manner? > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > snip > > > > > > > > Right, so why can't Israel exist peacefully > in 'Palestine'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beats me, though I don't think the 'we were here first' > > > > argument works well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Probably because the Israeli state was created by the > British > > > > from seized Arab land in the late 40's, in order to weaken the > Arab > > > > > > > nationalist movement. No one ever goes for that stuff, > and > > > > there has been war there ever since. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you are mistaken, the *JEWS* bought most of the > land > > > > from > > > > > > absentie lanlords (Arabs), it was nothing but barren. The > JEWS > > > > made > > > > > > it > > > > > > what it is today....isn't that reason enough? (Plus having > been > > > > there > > > > > > since the beginning of time). > > > > > > > > > > Is that the 6000 year old "beginning of time" per the Old > Testement > > > > > (as interpreted by some) or the 20 million years > ago "beginning of > > > > > time" that the progenitors of all current humanity migrated > out of > > > > > Ethiopia, or the 6 billion? years beginning of time when the > earth > > > > was > > > > > created, ot the 20? billions years ago "beginning of time" > since > > > > the > > > > > big bang? > > > > > > > > I have read that 80 to 90 percent of Israel's population is > > > > Ashkenazi, who are thought to be caucasoid descendants of the > > > > eastern-European Khazars, who never lived in the Near- or > Middle- > > > > East, and who converted to Judaism as late as the 7th or 8th > century > > > > CE. Only the remaining 10 to 20 percent are Sephardic, who > actually > > > > *did* originate in or near the region now known as Israel, and > who > > > > (I have read) are currently treated as distinctly second-class > > > > citizens in Israel. > > > > > > Cultural / religious claims of owning and having eternal rights > to a > > > portion of the earth based on where ones ancestors lived, > (sometimes a > > > dubious claims, as illustrated above), seems a rather odd > argument. My > > > ancestors owned a lot of land in Ireland, just ouside Dublin. > Can I > > > claim it? Others owned lots of land in what are now (not then) > ritzy > > > resort areas. Can I claim several acres of prime real estate > there? I > > > would be an instant billionaire. Help me out here, because I > would > > > love to make these claims. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> <font face=arial size=-1><a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hhfc0em/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123667368/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs">Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page</a></font> --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/